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thanks albacore11 but after thinking about it. i need some plactic ones that are made like the ones that go in the gunnels with the flanges on them but not at the 45 degree angle. they need to be stright up and down with flanges. but i cant find any. they will go on the bait board i made for my boat. might have to see if rscott can make me some if i cant find them. it looks like he can make anything the rodholders he made for his boat look like they came from bass pro shop i am good at doing things like that but not that good.....
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