Questions on 19 vs 21

[rick ayers]

Okay gentleman need some help please. Have been looking at Triumph's for some time now and crawled over them at the boat show. So now it looks like i may purchase a Triumph in the near future, not sure new or used, not so much concerned over boat but power plant. I plan to fish and dive(Scuba) off boat, any divers out there that have used their boat for this? I live on Fla. west coast by Tampa(Treasure Island). If anyone lives nearby and is willing to take me for a short ride or to talk triumph that would be great. Although I have been checking these boats out, I have never been underway in one. I also understand that the company is now out of Chapter 11.

After all the above information, does anyone have any idea in general what boat, trailer and engine weigh in referance to towing, 19 and 21. I also see on late models they added a roller, has anyone put a windless on also?

I like both the 19 and 21, the 21 has more room without question, etc. But then again your cost's also go up somewhat.

I sure I will have more questions, but thanks in advance for any and all help.

I have read all that I can on this site so far which is a great help, thanks to Randy and the Mod., great job guys.

RIck

[BarryB]

Although I own a smaller Triumph, I can say that "bigger is better" in both boat size and engine size.

Dealers tend to install a midrange engine that will, under most circumstances, perform okay. They do this to reduce the overall cost of the boat. But, when you need that extra HP, it's just not there.

I went with the lightest and most HP I could install on the boat (70hp two stroke Yamaha) and I'm very happy with it.

I have had divers off my boat, but due to size, I can only hold two divers plus gear and a captain to stay aboard.

Hope this helps.

[OspreyVic]

Rick, if you do not find anyone closer than me, you are welcome to come down to Osprey (Sarasota County) and spend as much time as you would like going thru our boat. I will try to explain all we have done and our reasons why.

Others have visited before and hopefully learned something that has helped them.

PS. Yes my boat is for sale, but visiting and talking about boats is free.

[Harper]

Rick, I'm pulling a 195CC w/Suzuki F150, and T-top on tandem axle aluminum trlr, and with say 2/3 tank of fuel and gear, weighs about 3800. Since I have a fairly small truck (li'l ol' Jeep Comanche), it's about all I'd care to handle, but she pulls just fine.

[Putershark]

Rick go see Vic and drool over his 210 (cleans up easy enough) but a perfect rig for your Offshore needs and the 210 / 215 has just the right size storage in the Mega Hatch for dive tanks

Now I use to pull our old 210 years ago with a Tacoma Pre-Runner with the V6 and as long as you were not in a super rush and tried to drag it at 70 MPH, it had no problems handling the 210 besides, these hulls are a lot lighter than they look which comes in handy when towing and allows one to gain speed before the aerodynamic drag starts to come into play.

[rick ayers]

Just want to say thanks to all who responded to my question, and a very heartfelt thank you to Vic in Osprey for showing me his 21' and talking about Triumph's in general. By the way if anyone is looking for an extra clean 21' LOADED contact Vic you will be glad you did. I have been around boats for quite a few years and this is one of the cleanest I have come across.

Now moving on, It looks like for towing I maybe able to tow a 195cc loaded light as i have a 3500lb limit (ford escape). Otherwize I may look closer at 17'.

Either way hopefully by sometime late this spring I will be boating full time over by Melbourne area as this is where I am moving to in about June. (Satillite Beach area).

Again thanks and stay safe on water

[OspreyVic]

Rick, thanks for your kind words. When we can get past this rain and cold weather, you and your better half are still welcome to go for a ride. It was a joy to talk about Triumph boats with you both.

[cmarkphillips]

I own a 210 (similar to the 215) and tow it with a Honda Pilot, which has a boat tow rating of 4500 lbs. I wouldn't tow a 210/215 or 195 (which I believe is 400 lbs lighter) with a vehicle tow rating of 3500 lbs.

Once I put in all my gear, gas, passengers, etc. it wouldn't surprise me if I was near or at my maximum vehicle weight and towing capacity. I've installed heavy duty brake components on my vehicle to provide an extra measure of safety. The Pilot tows my rig OK, but each time I tow I find myself looking for additional items to leave behind to lighten the load.

In my opinion, you will probably find that a rigged and fueled 195 will exceed your towing capacity. I'm certain that a 210 will.

Hope this is helpful.

[rick ayers]

thanks for posting and trust me I have towed before and would look VERY carefully at numbers before I towed anything.

[SSRanger]

If you want to see a 215 in Orlando, I'd welcome your looking at my boat for sale. As far as towing, your issue will be pulling out of a slick or wet ramp with a fully loaded rig. If I've learned one thing in boating, it is that bigger is better. Unless your interested in staying inshore to dive, you need a boat that will handle serious water and allow you to run when you need to. If you buy new, make sure to figure the cost of rigging you boat the way you want. P.S. I have a remote control power windlass on my rig. Regards... Bob