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Old 10-11-2006, 06:48 PM
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Question 01 logic live well question

I own a 01 logic 210cc, I have a question about the live well, to operate it I must open a sea cock in the bildge and use the pump to fill the live well to the prefered level. while under way, if its a long run, water continues to flow into the live well to the point it will overflow.Once I stop, the water will eventually drain out through the sea cock. It will then need to be refilled to the prefered level...am I doing something wrong, should I close the seacock after fill the live well ? Rock fish season is in full swing here and a live well that operates properly would be a help....or may be its just operator error.

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Old 10-12-2006, 05:45 AM
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On my 03 I close the valve that is inside the baitwell on the intake opening. That keeps water from coming in or going out. but it does mean you have to get your hands wet. I have like a home made flapper valve on it but that is working only so so any more.
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C Firth, my 06 215 live well did the same thing as yours.
I checked the overflow hose and discharge fitting on the bottom of the hull for pluggage. Your through the hull overflow fitting will have strainer bars across it on the bottom of the boat. Sometimes small baits can get into the overflow hose and get stuck there and restrict the water overflow. If you don't find any restristions then close the water inlet valve a little that is in the live well. Your baitwell pump can put more water in the well while you are underway than the overflow can get rid of. If youe baitwell does not have a valve on the inlet pipe you need to install one. Pincking back on the inlet valve took care of my problem.
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C Firth, one more thing about the baitwell system. The baitwell pump system doesn't have a check valve, so when you turn the pump off it will let water drain out of the baitwell. I run my pump most of the time that I have bait in it in order to keep water circulating and keep the bait alive and fresh. If you dont want to run your pump all the time you can install a check valve to prevent the water from back flowing out of the tank or shut the valve like k9reno said. The problem with shutting the see cock valve is then you cant use your washdown system.
Hope this helps, Bob
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:27 PM
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live well question on 01 logic 210

THANKS For The feedback ,I purchased the boat used , and the best of my knowledge there is no water over flow in my live well, unless you count the removable top that has a finger hole in it. Then the water is to high..I do have a areator to supply 02 to the bait or fish..The only way it works is to fill it to a proper level and close the sea cock to prevent more water from comming in and it will not siphon water out while stopped..I can live with it that way ,but you are right it prevents me from using the wash down with the sea cock closed. And I have no valve to shut off the water inside the live well, other than the sea cock maybe I'm missing some parts ??? Any other suggestions ???


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C Firth, I have never seen a baitwell on a Triump that did not have a overflow drain. But then again I havent seen all Triumphs.
Most of the overflow drains are inside the well, on the top and on the port side. Its hose should be conected with the bottom drain of the well with a tee and then exit through the bottom of the hull. You have to stick your head in the well to see it or fell for it with your hand. Put your bottom plug in, stick a garden hose in it, fill it full of water and see if water starts running out the bottom of the boat.
Does your inlet pipe in the well have threads on it? If it does then you are missing the valve that can regulate the water flow into the well. If so you can buy one at any hardware or Home/Garden Center.
Please dont take me wrong. Im not doughting you, I just have never seen one without a over flow. Let us know what you find. I can also take a picture of mine and show you the valve if it helps. Bob
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Rudderhinge; I took your advise and before I went out stripper fishing today ,I looked real careful in the live well. There is only one inlet which is horzontal located at the very bottom of the tank, when I turn my pump on the water comes in through that fitting if I am sitting still the water will drain out the same hole as long as the sea cock is open, prehaps this one outlet serves as both the inlet and some type of overflow valve..I can use a 90 degree and then insert a stand pipe that will at least keep a constant water level. It still wont prevent the tank from over filling on a long run..the only way that can happen it to close the sea cock.I still think I am missing some parts...it still workable just a pain from time to time...maybe someone else out there with a 01 logic has the same set up.

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THERE SHOULD BE A 1-1/4 " overflow DRAIN LINE CONNECTED TO THE INLET AT THE TOP OF THE LIVEWELL. --UP AT THE TOP OF WHERE YOU SEE THE LIGHT AT THE BOTTOM. THIS OVERFLOW DRAIN DUMPS WATER OUT OF THE livewell BY WAY OF A THRU HULL FITTING.
the only way to keep water from draining back out the fitting at the bottom of the well is to either put an elbow on the outlet pipe and extend a piece of pvc pipe up to the top of the well as have some owners have done. or if you want to go crazy as i did , i cut a new inlet in at the top of the well and extended the hose from the pump up to the new inlet. i then put a tee in the 1-1/4 drain line and ran a 3/4 hose from the old inlet to the tee. this became my new drain so i dont have to run water on the deck to drain the livewell as it was orig. designed. i am still looking for a way to put a 1-1/4 drain in the botton of the well as the boats with the smaller 70 gallon gas tanks have ,but it will require removing the well from the deck and i'm not that ready yet!!! there is numerous ways of plumbing the livewell--just search the threads
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Red face 01 logic live well

Illogical and rudderhinge ,both of you were right, I looked into the live well again today, as I have in the past, and you will never quess what I discovered,,,,,A RATHER LARGE overflow drain at the top of the live well, I dont know how I missed it in the past ,I can only say I didn't look there. I fillled the well before going stripper fishing and kept a check on it all day,It worked just fine...It was operator error (as suspected) all along. I corrected the problem of the water draining out by installing a stand pipe to keep a constant water level.. Thanks again to the both of you for the info.

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Great, glad that you took care of the water draining out. I know that had to be a pain.
If you still have the problem of the well overfilling when the pump is running and under way you can install a PVC valve in your new inlet stand leg. That way you can regulate the water flow going into the well. Mine overfilled until I pinched back on the valve but I never shut my pump off while I have bait in the well. If you dont run your pump all the time you may not have that problem. Catch em up, Bob
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