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Old 07-28-2006, 12:33 PM
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80% power

I have read and hear that any given boat should be rigged with no less than 80% of the maximun rated HP in order for it to proform properly. I am tring to buy a 191wt that is factory rigged with a 115 and the dealer is telling me that it will pull a skier just fine but at the same time the 191fs is factory rigged with a 150.

Any truth to the 80% rule??
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:41 PM
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115hp

I do not know about the 80% rule but I have a 115 Suz. four stroke on my 02' 190 bay and it pushes it just fine. I use it for knee boarding and pulling a tube, and it has more than enough power. Hope this helps, because I do not know how different the 191 is from the 190.
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:55 PM
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Boats can get underpowered real fast if one is not careful... They do not coast very far without power so that should tell you about the effects of drag that water has... But don't take my word for it, here is a note sent to me from Boattest.com yesterday (pay attention to #5) on surveys results and what others are saying...

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Puter...thanks for posting that. thanks for the links too. Good info.
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If you plan on pulling skiers, no less than 140 but I would go the max. You may also need two different props, one for skiing and the other for fuel effeciency and speed. I pull skiers but usually knee boarders and tubing some. You will not be pulling up two grown men on slolomn skiis without max hp and correct prop with spectators in the boat as well, etc. No problem one skier and one boarder using a ss prop for speed.
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I truely believe my 210 is under powered. ONLY when it comes to pull skiers and such. In the ocean, with 3 fat boys on board and a full tank, and a full bait tank....she does fair, I have a 115 merc, wish I had at least a 150. makes the hole shot faster to get out of.
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