DC or CC???

[mustang28027]

Hello all,

First, this is my first post on this site. It was great to find it! I have been looking at Logic/Triumph boats for about a year, trying to gather as much info on them as I can. The benefits of this tough plastic boat are far avove the fiberglass ones for this size. The word isnt out yet on how good these boats are. I was talking to a friend that had a few boats in his lifetime and whan I mentioned a "plastic boat" he nearly fell out. Then I showed him some pics and he did a turnaround... and then when I mentioned it is unsinkable and "dockproof", meaning no gelcoat cracking or fiberglass repairs, he was really interested!

My posting is to say HI and also ask a question... I live in the Charlotte NC area, home of lake Norman and a few others. I have two kids that want to enjoy the lakes and go tubing/skiing/ boarding. I, on the other hand want to enjoy fishing. I will sometimes travel to the coast of NC or SC and do some inshore fishing for trout, drum and the like. On calm days I would want to go to the reefs that are just offshore(within 10 miles)...

My question is this... DC17 or CC 17? Both look like they are from the same hull, so there is no issure there. I read the high bow rail is a pain to deal with on the CC. How is the DC for creature comforts? How is it for fishing?What are the advantages or either? What are the disadvantages? From what I see the ideal motor is a Yamaha 70 two stroke. What about a Honda 75 four stroke? Give me your thoughts! Thanks in advance for your replys! Dave

Dave,

I recently purchased (April) a 2006 170DC and had the some of the same questions that you did although I was trying to decide between the 190 Bay, the 170CC, and the 170DC. I ended up buying the 170DC because I spend the majority of my time on the water on lakes and rivers and the DC provided more of a bass boat feel. I don't regret the decision. I recently spent a day on the Roanoke river striper fishing with a friend and there was plenty of room for both of us to fish.

Whichever boat you decide on if you are planning on using a trolling motor don't get the bow rail, it makes it very difficult using a trolling motor. As for the motor, I went with a Yamaha 60 horse 4 stroke and love it. I haven't tried pulling a skier or a tube yet but others on this site that have a 170CC with a 60 4 stroke have. Both boats are rated for a 75 HP motor so you may want to consider that option if you are planning on doing a lot of skiing or tubing. Either way I would recommend a 4 stroke over a 2 stroke, especially with the price of gas.

Do a search on the 170DC and 170CC models and you'll get a wealth of information from other owners.

Regardless of the model you'll really enjoy the Triumph boat.

Good Luck

Tom

[fridaysoff]

Dave,
I live on the southeast coast of NC (Wilmington). I have a 04 170CC with a 60 hp Yamaha 4 stroke. It is a great set up for inshore trout, flounder, drum, etc. I've been up to 15 miles offshore on slick days with a buddy boat. I can fish/play almost all day and generally burn about 5-7 gallons of fuel. The 170 only fishes two adults comfortably in the ocean/inlet due to the bouncing around with the waves and chop. Three adults are a crowd when it's windy. If I lived inland and had two small children who love watersports I would also go with the 75hp 4 stroke. Once you own a four stroke it will be very hard to go back to a two strike. It is soooo quite. It's economical and I do all of the maintenace on my Yamaha. It's user friendly. Speaking of user friendly. The Triumph hull is the greatest invention since "sliced bread" for me. I've captained tug boats, head boats, and charter boats. I've owned probably 15 small boats. You could piled them all up in a heap and they would not come close to the pleasure and ease of maintenance that my Triumph offers. The plastic is so smooth on the water. It swishes instead of "SMACK, POUND, BANG, RATTLE" like the alluminun and fiberglass boats. Give some thought to what % you'll be using the boat for fishing or pleasure and make your decision. Go to a Triumph dealer and take your lunch, sit in both for a while. Walk around several times and see if you bang your knees more in one than the other. I know you'll be proud of either boat, DC/CC.
Good luck.
John D.

[whoopbass]

Dave, We have a 2004 Triumph 170 Bass. This model is no longer produced and has a single side console. It has the same hull as all the other 170's. Our model has two livewells, and between the two of them, can carry 25 gallons of water and bait. We use our boat in many shallow water situations and I was concerned with weight, especially with the livewells full. I took a page from the flats fisherman's playbook and decided to go with the Yamaha 70 two stroke. It weighs well over 100 pounds less than the Yamaha 75 Four stroke. It does not cause the stern to squat and is very quick in getting on plane. We replaced the prop with a stainless steel model and with 2 people in the boat we can easily break 40 miles per hour! Our kids tube, kneeboard, and wakeboard easily. I can pull my 200 pound brother up on waterskis from a deep water start. The engine is very economical on fuel and we are capable of some very long runs when fishing. One gallon of two stroke oil lasts more than a season using the boat most every weekend. The power to weight ratio of the 70 Yamaha two stroke is excellent for this 170 hull and I would recommend it highly. We are also happy with the smaller side console as it gives us a little more room for sidearm casting in this size boat. Mike

[mustang28027]

I went to a dealer that had a 17dc. Pretty nice. Had a bimini top, ample seating, and a big 75 4stoke on it. From what I learned the owner didnt use it enough and just wanted to sell it, so its on consignment, I guess... Price is $9,900. Is that decent? I am seeing some of the boats on Ebay and they arent getting that much... As far as value goes are these boat dropping like shot ducks? What is a decent price to look for???

[woodNfish]

Mustang,

You don't say what the year of the boat and the engine are. Without a lot of info, I'd take a look. On a whim, I checked ebay and the lowest priced Triumph is a 2005 17' CC with a 70hp Yammy and a reseve price of $11,990. The other two are larger boats and are $14k and up. Seems to me they are holding their value, not that I have tried to sell mine, and don't plan to anytime soon.

woodNfish

[k9reno]

Last time I checked the book value on mine a couple months ago it was $23k with the stuff I have on it..I spent 31 to get it and equip it.. I am suprised it is actually worth more than I owe on it....that is unusal for me. I alway owe more than my toys are worth

[mustang28027]

ok... the boat is a 2002, and the motor is a honda 75. From what I see on Ebay they the priced significantly lower than what you folks are saying.What I am saying is that the boats do not appear to be holding value(in comparison to say, a Whaler). The boat I see on Ebay(one in Maryland on auction now) is going for around $5500.00. Compare that to a boat of the same year on boattrader... about 4k difference! I am here to get feedback... not argue. Your thoughts are appreciated. Dave

[NCangler]

Dave, I don't sense that anyone is arguing with you. The previous posts by members go into great length to assist with information about their boats and experiences. I would not use eBay as a measuring tool for the value of anything. I use eBay alot to buy and sell items and pricing fluctuates significantly there.

On Triumphs retaining their value...I bought a 2003 Triumph 210 with Suzuki 140 4-stroke in September of 2002 and sold it last fall for a little over 10% less than I paid for it. I had some modifications and additions to it but for a 3-year old boat I thought that was pretty good. And the buyer was happy to get it at that price. I hope this is helpful.

[CubFanPete]

Just my two cents but two things I would not do.
1) Buy a used vehicle in New Orleans right now.
2) Buy a boat on ebay.

Your concerns are valid so I would go to a dealer. If you buy off Ebay there will be very little recourse.

I own a 2004 170 Bass with the Yamaha F75. I really didn't worry about the weight issue as I myself am not a thin man. If I want to get 50 pounds of weight out of my boat I'll diet.

Finally I bought the 170 Bass for fish ablity For my fishing habits its perfect plus fuel prices aren't going down.