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Old 06-07-2008, 09:16 AM
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More Hydrofoil Questions

Let me start by saying I am a newbie to the Triumph community and am very happy with not only the new boat, but also the support here. I am 99% sure I am going to put a hydrofoil on my 170 DC with 4 stroke 60 Yamaha. I have read as many of the posts as I could about this topic and the Bob's Machine Shop seems like the favored item. My question is this, I have access to a free, unused, Sport SE 300 that my brother never installed on a boat he sold he sold. Do all of the accolades about the Bob's Machine Shop outweigh the price (free) of the Sport SE 300? My main concern with the boat performance is getting on plane faster and staying there at slower speeds. It is great with two people, but is a little sluggish with more than that unless I direct everyone where to sit. We had a Hydrofoil on a boat we owned growing up and it made a huge difference, I just want to make sure I will get good performance before I start drilling holes. Any opinions on the two would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:57 AM
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Andy,

Before you drill holes in the cavitation plate you may want to check out this thread How flush is your transom?.

I'm in the same boat (so to speak), I've been weighing the hydrofoil vs the smart tabs. I'm sold on the smart tabs. I know you say that your trying fix the planing at slower speed condition, but you will ocassionally want to go fast and the hydrofoil doesn't appear work as well on top end including reduced effeciency. Just some food for thought.

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BMS,BMS,andBMS!!!!!! It's worth every penny. I put one on my 2004 170CC with a 60hp 4 stroke Yammy. It performed exactly like you are wanting one to perform. Better hole shot and slower planing speed. I am thinking about putting one on my 195CC even though it performs well without it. The BMS stabilizer plate works and it does not look like the tail end of a whale. If you put it on and it does not do what you want you can get a small can of "Marine Tex" and fill those holes in 5 minutes. spray paint them and you will never know they were there. It did not slow my boat's top end speed at all.
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Welcome aboard Andy!
I to am thinking of eventually adding one or the other to my 170cc for the same reasons as you. I have never used either one in the past on my previous boats so I can't help much with your questions here but I am thinking more towards the BMS stabilizer.
True Tracker (Stabilizer Plate)
How familiar are you with the free one versus the BMS?

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Tim, John D, and Jim,

Thanks for your responses. Jim to answer your question about the SE Sport, I am not really familiar with it at all performance-wise. My brother bought it to but on a skiff he had, but sold the boat before installing it. I have read reviews online, and going by the reviews the Bob's Machine Shop wins hands down. John D's response seems right in line with everything else I read. I did see some less than positive reviews of the SE Sport on some other websites (sorry I don't remember which ones). I think at this point I am leaning towards spending the money and getting the BMS. Hope this helps.

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Old 06-08-2008, 08:44 PM
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order me a plate

I think i will be ordering my plate this week for my 190.
Thanx for all the responses.
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The family and I took the boat out today and put the G-Force tube in the water for the first time. It was lots of fun, but it didn't take long to realize that a mod needs to be done. I'm going to pick up a set of Smart Tabs this week.
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Let us know how they perform. Also how they fit with the swim platform in place.Thanks.
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I ordered the BMS last night and am eagerly awaiting its arrival! Does anyone have an estimate on shipping times? The confirmation email I received from the company didn't give any indications. I will let everyone know the outcome after I getting everything up and running.

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I have a 17 dc, with a 60hp 2 stroke Yammy, add a sting ray fin to the moter and the boat flys at low rpms. Have a lot fun with it, I know I do.
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