190 Bay Q2

[nocturn]

And if anyone cares...I have 15 years in the Coast Guard....Ive spent copious amounts of time on Schitty Boats...



...My 2003 190Bay is a dream compared to...

[NCangler]

Rockman, We've been through this list before. Can we please move on. And BTW he did not lead this site. I started this from scratch on my own on my own server. This is not a MSN forum site.

Guys, please keep things positive here and I'd prefer that we not refer to someone that is no longer a member of this site and I don't see any gain in linking to their comments, if we don't agree with them. I've seen too many sites go south quickly when the negative attacks start. That is not what this site is about. I stated early on when I started this site that our purpose is to share tips and modifications to make our boats better. Triumphowners.net is not a place to verbally attack an individual or a dealer or Triumph. Please stop.

so how do I get in touch with ***** sounds like my kina guy the "Truth be with you"

In my defence I have attacked NO Dealer Or triumph I have Truth fully and as short as possiable, Answered others questins on their boats. No platitudes, or excuses, just the truth as I know it Coast guard shure. 7 yrs aux in harlem river ny watch those bottles and bricks. Annimals did kill 1 reg coast guard, thru the overhead with a truck battery another story another day. fl 51 3rd dist.

[190steve.s]

The "Q2" will be stamped in the vin. I had an 01 with issues.
Dealer was not straight with me. Luckily they are out of business.
When Triumph factory got involved they stood behind their product
swiftly and 100 % By the way it took three years of while not constant
but some serious pounding before my problem occured at a kiss-off.
Steve

[fishingfool]

Heck!!! I love my boat, 2001 190 bay.

[R.N.Y.C]

In answer to the original post. I purchased a 190CC and had a choice of a skeeter CC or the bay, while the skeeter was $1000.00 more in price. I liked the layout of the bay better. After listening to several friends at work who fish alot of tournaments talk about having to take their boats to the shop and spend a couple hundred dollars to get their gel coat repaired I was glad to have and buy something requiring less maintenance. I have kids and after experincing what they can do to the side of a $40,000 truck I did not want to see what they could to gel coat. I wanted a boat that my wife would not be scared in would ride smooth even in chop and my bay has accomplished both. While I my have not owned my boat long enough to count I will stand by this if I had wanted a porche I would have paid for one I wanted an inexpensive boat for the family but not a used boat as I have been left in the middle of the lake in a skeeter. Rockman I work for a major helicopter manufacture and I am a flight supervisor ( and a liscensed acft mechanic) you would be suprised by what damage and repairs are accomplished on new acft and still sold as new by the company even Cessna. Buy your boat whatever brand that might be and enjoy it because no matter what it is there will always be a better boat.

[MolarBoater]

Good luck, lots of good suggestions, a lifetime warranty is a great thing no matter what you buy. I'm going fishing tommorrow and won't have a care in the world about sinking or hurting my boat. My truck cost alot more than the boat and it only had 36k mile warranty. My boat is paid off......and still under warranty.

If you can afford Q1 get it, if the Q2 deal is too good to pass up, buy it and enjoy and don't look back. Understand what the deal is, less money up front for a Q2 in leu of the warranty. If you will only use the boat a few times a year and are careful with your stuff, odds may be in your favor. Over years and time....things happen. Life. Good Luck, Molar

[cagrove]

Originally Posted by MolarBoater

Good luck, lots of good suggestions, a lifetime warranty is a great thing no matter what you buy. I'm going fishing tommorrow and won't have a care in the world about sinking or hurting my boat. My truck cost alot more than the boat and it only had 36k mile warranty. My boat is paid off......and still under warranty.

If you can afford Q1 get it, if the Q2 deal is too good to pass up, buy it and enjoy and don't look back. Understand what the deal is, less money up front for a Q2 in leu of the warranty. If you will only use the boat a few times a year and are careful with your stuff, odds may be in your favor. Over years and time....things happen. Life. Good Luck, Molar

Well said MolarBoater.

[ILLOGICAL GGC]

Just a few observations from someone that has owned a new 2001 Q1 186 bay and currently owns a 2001 Q2 210cc and is poor as dirt to boot!!

i consider these entry level boats as well, but where triumph screwed up is they should have taken over the small size boat market years ago with cheap price boats and lots of them rather than trying to make all the investment back up overnight---but that's how irwin does business. after all , genmar is what 10 glass boat brands to 1 plastic--that would have gone over like ,well you know. triumph should have become a household name rather than 10 glass boat division"s whipping boy.

every model year has for the most part improved over the previous year. a perfect example i can relate to is they had to go away from the 80 gallon fuel tanks once the heavier 4 strokes came on the scene cause it was just too much weight on the rear of the boat. if i ever have to go below the deck for any reason, i will change my 80 to something smaller and then i can improve my livewell drain and add another bilge pump, and, and. this is where others on the hind truth dont get it, those of us that are poor or just like to know our vessels from stem to stern are able to modify say a 2001 210 cc such as mine to the current specs if i so choose to and with tremendous savings to boot over the price of a new vessel . some of us actually like to improve what we have ,with the key word being improve.there should actually be some money paid to owners who in the past made improvements that the factory may have "borrowed"!! i would not have any fingers if i had done all the things i have done to my 210cc on a fiberglass boat---they would be cut to pieces and i would be dieing of resin lung as well!! all kidding aside, i am not going to say that there are not problems,actually there are with certain models of certain years. however, every owner that has had a problem and went thru a reputable dealer or were forced to refer back to the factory has had their major problems addressed.

i have also seen the factory do in my opinion stupid stuff like draining the fishboxes into the bilge rather than tieing them all together with a maceator pump and overboard discharge the fishy boxes. again it falls back to and i have to agree with you somewhat ,that for the extra money ,that would have been the best way to handle the floor box water/drain issue. i do wish and if they had any sense they should have owners meetings as much as dealers meetings and they should be reading and listening to what we say and have a place where owners can give input into how the boats are made and maintained. we have the pratical knowledge of how these boats perform dayin and day out whereas the engineers only know how to look at a computer screen and see if point a will meet point b.

for the money and that is what it all boils down to, you will not find a dryer riding,softer riding, easier to maintain , easiest to modifyand make improvements to boat and i rode in everything 21 feet and under in 2001.

in closing i will go so far to say that i havent found a better brand of boat to go up against my 210cc and this boat doesnt even have a factory warranty for it and, i will never step foot onboard a century brand again and it my friend has all the bells and whistles yet left me almost crippled from a 2ft chop beating i will never forget!!!!!
GGC