190 Bay Weight with Trailer

[iceb52!]

Has anyone weighed their 190 bay with motor and trailer? My brother wants to try to tow it with his 2006 Tacoma 4 cylinder manual transmission truck. Its maximum towing capacity is 3500 pounds, which I think is a little higher than the total weight of the boat. I figured about 2800 lbs with boat, trailer, Yamaha 115 4 stroke, fuel, three batteries, trolling motor.

Has anyone trailered their boat with a smaller truck? I figure the biggest problem will be stopping the rig. I do not have brakes on the boat trailer.

RB

[trasbeck]

On a certified scale, my 2002 190 with a Yamaha 115 4 stroke weighed 3485 pounds.
About a half tank of fuel, no trolling motor or batteries, very little junk in the storage compartments as I was on the way to winter storage........

[Lazy Loafer]

I tow my 2003 190 Bay with a 1987 Dodge Dakota CE pickup, 3.9 L V6, 2 WD automatic without much trouble. It has a 2000 lb towing capacity stamped on the bumper hitch which, of course, I don't use. I had a 5000 lb, class ? hitch installed instead. I couldn't find any listing of the tow capacity beyond what was stamped on the bumper. I live in southern NJ where it is really flat land and would not try to take it into hilly or mountainous terrain. Around here it seems to pull it just fine and with good rubber and a complete brake rebuild it stops without any trouble. Unless you live in an area (or plan to tow) where there are steep hills I would think that a Tacoma rated at 3500 lbs would do the job for you. With me it was simple, I had the truck and it ran great. I couldn't afford to buy both a truck and a boat, so I opted for a boat I figured my truck could tow where I needed to tow it. I was tempted to buy a leftover 210 at a great price, but figured that was really overdoing it with the truck I had.

[fridaysoff]

RB,
I think the Tacoma will tow the 190 Bay OK. you didn't say where you live, hopefully it's fairly flat terrain. I think your biggest problem will be at the boat ramp. I live in southeastern NC (about flat as you can get). I have a 170CC and a Jeep Cherokee 4.0 straight 6 engine. It has plenty of torque and I've strained a little coming up a few ramps at low tide. If you have a friend with a boat, tow it to a ramp and check it out. Try it at low tide. Then you'll have something to compare it with. Good luck.
John D.

[MolarBoater]

The towing capacity has more to do with what the suspension and brakes can handle on the vehicle vs the hp. That tow rating is the total of the boat, motor, trailer, gas, water, "stuff", passengers, and everything else added into the truck like coolers etc.

I upgraded my leaf springs on my trailer to 5,000 lbs due to all the weight with a full tank of gas, 5 batteries, 150qt cooler with 50% ice, 70qt food/beverage cooler, trolling motor, assessories, 15' heavy chain anchore, etc, etc. I figured it was @ 4500lbs.

Heck, I can push my trailer/boat around in my carport by myself so I know a Mini-Cooper could tow it......but.....can your brakes handle the load? Is your rear suspension stiff enough to hold more weight w/o the front end being too light? Go to TrailerBoating.com or BoatUS.com and search their databases for general "tow rating" info.....we all find that it is probably lower than what we even think compared to the posted limit.

[Timagination]

My new to me '04 190 Bay has the Yamaha 115 and my only tow vehicle so far is my 2000 Tacoma 4x4 with the big 4 cylinder (I don't know the exact displacement but it's a strong motor). I had long ago replaced the original two-leaf springs in the rear with heavy duty three-leafers, and I recently had the front brakes replaced, so I feel pretty comfortable towing it in the areas in which I operate. You definately never lose sight of the fact that you are trailering a boat with this rig, and that's not a bad thing, in my opinion.

I have to traverse some fairly steep, but short hills and valleys enroute to my nearest ramp, and I have to downshift to third occasiionally to keep things rolling.....but third is good when the freaking deer are as prolific as they are around here...........

I can cruise very comfortably at 55-60 and the brakes are adequate to the task. Launching and recovering the boat are an absolute joy...........nolo probleemo.

[ReelDive]

I use the same rig on sand ramps around here. No problems. With my old GMC Sonoma 2wd the only way I could hull out was to put one person in the truck and the other in the boat and push the truck up the ramp with the boat to get things started. As soon as the outboard engine broke the surface the person in the boat had to shut things down wit a quickness to say the least. You shouild have seen the faces of the on-lookers.

[fattiresc]

Emery,

That is quite a load. Where do you find room for a 150 cooler on the boat, and if that wasn't hard, also fitting a 70? Man, You are a master of space! I guess if I lost some weight, maybe my 190 wouldn't feel so small. :-)

~Jason

Originally Posted by MolarBoater

The towing capacity has more to do with what the suspension and brakes can handle on the vehicle vs the hp. That tow rating is the total of the boat, motor, trailer, gas, water, "stuff", passengers, and everything else added into the truck like coolers etc.

I upgraded my leaf springs on my trailer to 5,000 lbs due to all the weight with a full tank of gas, 5 batteries, 150qt cooler with 50% ice, 70qt food/beverage cooler, trolling motor, assessories, 15' heavy chain anchore, etc, etc. I figured it was @ 4500lbs.

Heck, I can push my trailer/boat around in my carport by myself so I know a Mini-Cooper could tow it......but.....can your brakes handle the load? Is your rear suspension stiff enough to hold more weight w/o the front end being too light? Go to TrailerBoating.com or BoatUS.com and search their databases for general "tow rating" info.....we all find that it is probably lower than what we even think compared to the posted limit.

[AstroDiver]

www.supersprings.com
I put a set of these on my Tacoma a few years ago. Rated at 2000#. Helps when towing my boat and having a bunch of dive gear in the bed of the truck. No sagging. They are self adjusting.

[MolarBoater]

Found the 150 was the ticket since I use block ice and that takes up alot of space, esp in the CoolMax 120's I had been using. Tried using the port bow locker a few times but couldn't keep water from getting in there on rough days(worked well for a "brine" bath though).

The 150 fits nicely on top of the trolling battery compartment and is bungeed down and forward.
A 70 fits under the leaning post and we keep drinks and food there where as the 150 is for catch, dead bait, extra drinking water and empty containers, etc.

If you are trailering down the interstate with ice chests, my experience has been that the safety latches tend to let the lids open because of backdrafts in the boat. If you have them filled with things that need to be cold, well, it may not be when you get home. But, you still have to have some weight in them or they will jiggle about in the wind, tilt over and pull the screws out of the hardware. Might try adding some ss latches in the spring for both.

If you really want more room on a 190, add a T-top and you can get two t-bags plus an electronics box under there! Dry food, clothes, towels, kids' stuff, life jackets, misc unnessessary items. Just ask Astro, anybody who can pitch a tent on a Bay 190 has figured out a few space issues!haha