Does my 190 need an inner hull drain ?

[BAYCOASTAL]

my 02 goes 31 mph max with an 02 Merc 115 2 stroke saltwater. It used to go about 35-37 until the water started getting into the inner hull.

I have a ss performance prop

My trailer "sags" under the excess weight, the boards are in bad shape, trailer tires get excessive wear on the outside etc

I guess this should be expected for any boat!!!!

[rudderhinge]

BAYCOASTAL, I still hope that your repair facility has learned how to repair Triumph boats and they make lasting repairs when you take it in for service.
I have seen 01's and 02's 190 CC repaired with both scuppers cracked wide open and both sides of the hull cracked and pushed in so bad that you would think that it could never be fixed. They where repaired and you had to look hard to see where the repairs where made. Also, two of them have been over three years since the repairs with out problems. Triumph will stand by there boats and cover the cost of repairs as lone as the boat has the hull warranty.
I belive that I would make arrangements to have the boat repaired at the factory if possible or make arrangements to have a factory rep come to your dealer/repair shop and make or over see the repairs.
Again, I only hope that you get your boat fixed the way it should be. I feel for what you are going through. Hang in their and good luck.
ps: sounds like you need to work on your trailer. After 6 years most of them do need some work. Bob.

[NCangler]

Baycoastal, there is no reason that any "plastic surgery" (I like that phrase BTW ) should look bad. It should not be noticeable at all if done correctly. If I ever finish the Triumph Maintenance and Modifications DVD I'm working on, there is a segment where Carl Merritt at Merritt Marine shows you how a dealer or an owner can repair gouges, screw holes, etc. If someone did a modification to your boat and did not do a good job of matching the look, that can be fixed. I'll forward this thread to the folks at Triumph so they will be aware of this and hopefully you will get some help with making this right. Do you have any pictures you could attach to this thread of the cosmetic areas that don't look right?

[NCangler]

Beradon, Water should drain to the bilge if it doesn't go out the scuppers. The inner hull drain is for any water intrusion that gets into the inner foam hull area. Water is not supposed to get in there but screw holes, etc. that penetrate the hull surface can create a way for water to get in there. IF it does get in there then the hull drain provides a way for it to get out. If you see a lot of dripping then I'd start looking for possible water intrusion points.

Again this is me talking (an owner). I don't represent Triumph or any of there dealers in my statements about the inner hull drain. I'm just sharing from what I've learned from my dealer and other owners. Hopefully it helps but again, just my opinions.

Originally Posted by beradon

I'd like to wait and see if the inner hull drain solves my problem before doing anything drastic. The deck is made up with several sections and everyone of them is a potential watertrap but hopefully all water eventually ends up in the very bottom of the boat and leaves via the inner hull drain. I am not familiar with the construction under the deck but I assume (hope) all compartments have openings that will allow water to flow to the lowest part of the hull where my new drain is located. I realize it might take a while to drain if a lot of water has accumulated but so be it. I keep the boat on a trailer and I have a concrete block under the jack and its has been dripping nicely for days so maybe it will solve my problem.

Getting back the 3-4 MPH that I lost maybe a process of elimination. I have dinged up my prop several times on oysters beds and I file it smooth so I've probably taken about 1/8" off of it and maybe thats why I lost speed?? I'm from PA and I wasn't used to the shallows here on Florida's west coast. I'll replace the factory aluminum with a SS prop one of these days but for now, I'll see what the 3rd drain does. It should definitely be standard equipment on all 190 Bays.

[beradon]

Thanks NCangler, In a perfect world no water would enter the inner hull but some does and the inner hull drain is definitely a good idea. Mine has been dripping slowly but steadily for about a week now so I'm glad I added it. I would love to know how many gallons have dripped out but since the boat sits outside and we have some tremendous rains here in SW FL, there is no way to determine the amount. The deck is made up of several sections and some water is bound to enter the inner hull and apparently Triumph doesn't think its an issue but personally I prefer the flotation material to be as dry as possible and I certainly don't want to be carrying around any extra weight-potentially hundreds of unnecessary pounds. Its something the factory should do and their cost would be minimal-no mould changes are required-Simply boring a 1" hole and screwing a drain assy in place shouldn't take more than 10 minutes but I am no engineer and maybe its a pride thing with them-Maybe they want the general public to believe its impossible for any water to enter the boats inners?? Who knows Putershark highly recommended it and I'm glad I took his advice.

[bullets]

Now i am still confused! How does the water get in to the inner hull?? Sorry guys but i am just about to purchase a new Bay190 in Brisbane, Australia, and my dealer has no idea what i am talking about... i got some great ideas from everyone but what do i do here?? Make them contact Triumph and ask about the factory assembly for the drain?

[n559br]

I was putting in a transponder and hit water when drilling the holes for the mount. I guess I need an inner hull drain. Thankfully I need to send the boat to Merritt for some warranty work.

Ben
2007 190Bay

[beradon]

Hi Mate! Nothing to be confused about. Simply put, some water enters the inner hull. I don't know exactly where the water entered mine but it can enter from a number of places; rod holders, around the CC, around any piece of hardware, deck joints, maybe even condensation and the inner hull drain is the fix for getting it out. Triumph doesn't seem to be concerned so maybe its not an issue. Maybe it only happens in isolated cases-honestly I don't know. Installing the add'l drain is very simple. Simply bore a 1" hole about 6 or 8 inches deep and at the same height as the deck drains, caulk and screw the new assembly in place-The part costs about 18.00US and is available from any Triumph dealer. It takes about 10 minutes and in my case it was well worth it because mine has been dripping for about 2 weeks now-Its a relatively slow drip and I can't measure how much water escaped but it certainly doesn't belong there and I'm certain my boat will be several pounds lighter when it dries out. Good Luck with your 190!

[bullets]

Thanks for the quick response. Hopefully doing a water test with dealer today so i wanted to discuss this issues with him. I contacted Triumph and they said not to worry about a 3rd drain as the bilge has two drains and they feel that is sufficient. I think i will take your advice and tell the dealer to put in the drains before i pick the boat up. Any other advice?? I am going to be using the boat almost exclusively for salt water flyfishing in Queensland--- barramundi, tarpon, trevally, sailfish, queenfish, permit etc...

[beradon]

They're great boats Bullets and I'm sure you'll like them. Honestly I've only owned mine for about 4 months and can't suggest any other improvements. Mine has a T-top and hits just under 40 mph with a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke so personally I wouldn't go with any less horsepower. Good Luck with yours!