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Old 05-28-2008, 04:57 PM
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Water in Hull and no leaks to be seen??

OK. I had the boat out all weekend at Morehead City and every couple hours I was having to pump water out of the bilge. I have checked all of the pumps and there are no Leaks. I have checked the Bilge backflow idea and that is not it either. I even put a plug in the bilge discharge hole and still had water in the bilge. Here is the thing that bothers me. When the boat is out of the water even for a day I can still see water coming out of the Port and Starboard holes that drain the fish boxes up front. Water runs out and down the center of the hull. This has to be where I'm getting the water intrusion. I would have thought that this would have been sealed from the factory to not let water get into the inner hull. Also where the back seat base is bolted through the center stringer that runs down the center of the bilge area there is water constantly dripping out of the bolt hole. This tells me that there has to be ALLOT of water in the inner Hull for this to be leaking out there. What is the deal and does anyone have any suggestions for me to do. I have called the dealer and they have a 3 week back time that my boat will have to sit on there lot to be serviced! Thanks in advance Jeremy Brown....
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:58 PM
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help

Wish I could help but dont know anything that would help! Sounds like you are going to be an expert in short order.
Let us know what you find out.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:27 PM
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I have read everything on here about the water in the inner hull and I think that Triumph should have already fixed this problem. I will be looking at putting in the inner hull drain and then go from there. I cannot see any cracks in the hull anywhere. I will be filling the entire hull again to see if there is any leaks/small drips from any of the fittings. This is depressing with a new boat but not enough to discourage me from owning it. I love the way it fishes and handles. Just want a dry hull unless there is a reason for water in it like a storm or wave over the bow....... ! JB
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JB,
I know from your posts you are an avid fisherman and run your boat a lot during a day fishing. Could the water you are talking about be coming in the boat from splashing some water over the bow and normal water coming in the boat from outside sources. The floor deck on my 195 and my earlier 170 did not fit 100% flush around and against all the sides. Could the couple of gallons an hour be leaking to the bilge from the deck? Does your fish boxes drain to the bilge or do you use an extra cooler? If you carry a lot of weight with the 150HP motor and water comes in from the scuppers could it be leaking into the bilge area from where the deck is not flush with the side of the boat? A couple of gallons of water pumping out the bilge pump every hour does not sound like its coming from a steady leak, but possibly from some of the other sourses I mentioned. I'm not trying to suggest there's not a problem, just throwing some other possibilities in the mix. I know its worrisome for you and I hope you find the source soon.
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The bilge and the inner hull are two very different things. Many people are convinced they have water in the inner hull because their bilge pump keeps coming on. But the bilge would not pump water out of the inner hull. I would recommend visiting your dealer to see if they can figure something out on this.
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I appreciate your responses. No there is no water coming in from splashing or other sources. I get the water in the boat while sitting still fishing. Anchored up! I will pump the water out of the bilge and then about 1 hour later there is at least a couple gallons of water in the bilge. The water that is coming out of the front 2 fish box drain holes is dripping out 24 hours after I have removed the boat from the water. There is NO water in these boxes within 1 minute of removing the boat from the water. I raise the front of the boat as high as I can to make sure that there is no water left in the bilge area. The inner hull has no where to drain as of now because I do not have the 3rd drain installed at this time. I will be doing this asap. The scuppers are blocked off by pool plugs that I bought a couple weeks ago. No water gets on the back portion of the deck from the scuppers at all now. As soon as I place the boat in the water I can stick my head in the bilge area and hear a constant dripping of water from somewhere. After a couple hours there is water coming out of the mounting bolt that fastens the rear pole seat base to the main center stringer of the boat. CRAZY !!! JB
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I have talked with Merritt Marine and they are going to have to weld up the drain holes at the front of the boat and redrill them. This seems to be an old problem that is not seen that often on the new 07/08's. I will be taking the boat to them on Saturday and will have her back within 2 weeks. By talking with Merritt I know that I will be using them for all of my warranty work in the Future and Service of my Engine. I also like the fact that they are a part of this board and help out with issues here too. Merritt Marine has a water tank that they will be able to test for leaks in at there facility. !!!! Happy now! Thanks to all that have responded and I will update this thread as soon as I get a answer. JB
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Thanks for the update JB. You are in very good hands with Merritt Marine! Carl, Chad, Dick and all the folks there really know their stuff. The tank behind their facility is a great asset. Triumph uses it for testing too.
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I am a bit concerned as I have a problem also with water getting in my inner haul. I have had my boat almost a year now and the boat felt a bit heavier than when I first got it. while doing my yearly engine servie at my dealer I told them I thought I had water in the hull. They pulled a screw out of the swim step and water came out! I was not happy. To me that meant I had water in the hull at least up to the swim step bottom screws. The dealer told me triumph had them install a inner hull drain in the bilge area in the rear of the boat on the side of the stringer about 3-4 inches higher than my bilge drain.

When the dealer drilled in to install the drain plug water pour out at first then slowly ran out for over 45 minutes and dripped water for a couple days. I am not happy with this. The dealer said they did not know where the water was coming in from. I had the boat out once since then and when I got back I raised the boat up high on the trailer, opened the inner hual drain and a bit of water came out. This tells me I may still have small leak somewhere. If this problem contiues I will take it back. As it is now with the placement of the inner hull drain, that is about 7-10 inches above the very bottom of the boat, I still have water in the hull from that point down. I was told it is not a lot because that should all be filled with foam but I still don't like it. I expect to get what I pay for. I wish Triumph would have had the dealer put the inner hull drain at the lowest part of the boat something similar to the third drain on some of the other posts. I don't want to every do anything that would void my hull warranty so I guess I have to follow what my dealer and triumph recommends.

Other than the water in the hull the boat is pretty good. I like it and it is low maintenance.

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Hi Jeremy

We have had our 215CC for just about a year and I went around in circles for eight months with the dealer I bought the boat from, for the same basic problem. Even after requesting that all the hardware be removed and resealed they would not do it. Being it was brand new I refused.

I have to give Truimph and Clearwater Marine of bellingham Washington a thumbs up here, they picked up my boat saving me a 31/2 drive each way. They verified my concern and also verified the water was coming in through the factory installed trim tabs. You can apply 3-5psi of air through your inner hull drain ad find any leak with soapy water. If this much pressure will hurt the hull you should not be in it. If you do not want to wait for them. remove all the hardware below the waterline, Jack her up to drain. If you have or can borrow a differential pressure gauge you can assist the water getting out. Then just reseal it with RULE. Let it cure. Our 215CC is a 2007 the transom holes still leaked and had the stinky water everyone complains about but the volume of water is less with the plug in it. So if you have a newer 215 they need to be resealed also. I think other guys have used vacuum cleaners attached to the drain to suck the water out also. The problem is not the design, it seems to be a labor issue on the assembly line for installing hardware.

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