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Old 05-07-2005, 10:30 PM
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Put a deposit on an '04 WT today. It has a 115 on it now, but I am going to replace that with a 150 or 175. I will also be putting a 9.9 kicker on. Can anyone advice? I fish tournaments and am interested in performance.

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Old 05-07-2005, 10:52 PM
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Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the forum.

From what I've seen, most 190/191's come with a 115. Mine has a Honda 130, some have Zuki 140's. I believe that the max hp is 150. So that may 86 the 175.

Today, I got my 190CC over 40 mph with my 130 going with the wind/tide at 4,500 rpm - 35 mph against the wind/tide. Had another 1,000+ rpm left before WOT. For me, that's fast enough in a bay boat.

Ask Dick in the Tech forum about the kicker, but I believe that it hasn't been done on the 190/191 boats. Plus, you'll likely be exceeding the transom weight limit of 500lbs. (unless the 04 has a higher limit).
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In 05 they made one of the 190 versions ( I dont remember which) with a mount designed for a kicker motor. I think it was the walk through or FS but dont quote me on it.
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Thanks for the replies. The '04 WT was made for a kicker. A Merc 150 weighs 424lbs, a 9.9 Kicker weighs 99lbs. The boat is rated for 565lbs. That's CLOSE!
Have there been any issues with transom failure on these boats? My favorite motor ever was a '90 115 Yammy thats still getting it done. The past 7 years I've been running 225 Mercs. But I no longer feel the need for speed! I'll be spending a lot of time on the great lakes. Don't want to create any self inflictated problems.
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The only transome problems I have seen were on only two boats. both had been rear ended while on the trailer.
where on the great lakes do you fish. I drag around the west basin of erie several times a summer in my 210. I may try Lake Michigan for a change sometime.
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My 02 Honda 130 weighs 490+ lbs. The only issues I've had is back flow of water into the scuppers with a full load of fuel. But they could've changed the deck/scuppers in the 04 as well.

My 190 was rear ended late last summer while I was trailering out of the beach area here in CT. Luckily, the girl that hit me was only doing around 5 mph. My skeg went through the radiator ripped a nice hole in the top of her Hyundai. My aluminum prop needed replaced but, otherwise, no problems. For that reason alone, I'll never buy a SS prop. Would've hated to see that happen to a glass boat with no flex.
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This year I am fishing the east side of the PWT. The only great lake stop is at Saginaw Bay. I grew up in Ohio fishing the western basin. Incredible fishery. Thanks for the input.
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The 190 hull is not designed to hold a kicker bracket, the 191 is and has a fuel pick up on the tank. I'm sure a bracket could be designed to accomadate a light weight motor on the 190, just don't tell the factory, i'm not sure how they would take it.


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Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the forum.

From what I've seen, most 190/191's come with a 115. Mine has a Honda 130, some have Zuki 140's. I believe that the max hp is 150. So that may 86 the 175.

Today, I got my 190CC over 40 mph with my 130 going with the wind/tide at 4,500 rpm - 35 mph against the wind/tide. Had another 1,000+ rpm left before WOT. For me, that's fast enough in a bay boat.

Ask Dick in the Tech forum about the kicker, but I believe that it hasn't been done on the 190/191 boats. Plus, you'll likely be exceeding the transom weight limit of 500lbs. (unless the 04 has a higher limit).
Cinci From just looking at the Triump WEB site they say the max HP is 175 on a 190 is 150 510 lbs but the 191 is 175 and a max engine weight of 565.
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My 02 Honda 130 weighs 490+ lbs. The only issues I've had is back flow of water into the scuppers with a full load of fuel. But they could've changed the deck/scuppers in the 04 as well.

My 190 was rear ended late last summer while I was trailering out of the beach area here in CT. Luckily, the girl that hit me was only doing around 5 mph. My skeg went through the radiator ripped a nice hole in the top of her Hyundai. My aluminum prop needed replaced but, otherwise, no problems. For that reason alone, I'll never buy a SS prop. Would've hated to see that happen to a glass boat with no flex.
Cinci: From a story our loacal dealer told on Monday they had a Triump that was "T" boned by a truck and it didn't hurt the boat at all but it totaled the the trailer it was riding on.
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