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Old 02-19-2005, 11:30 PM
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Should I buy the 210? Convince me!

Hi,

I went twice to the Boston boat show and stopped by the booth of Atlantic Boats. I was checking a different brand but the guy also showed me the Triumph 210cc. That boat was not on my short list. Parker, Polar, McKee, Sea Hunt were. I have to say I was impressed with the boat. That being said I am new to boating and I am looking for my first boat. I am not a risk taker when it comes to spending ~$22K+ and going with a brand that none of my buddies know is a little out of my comfort zone. You were at one point in my shoes so I hope you understand what I mean. I am not trying to offend anybody. So in short what would you say to a boating rookie to convince him to go with a Triumph rather than a better known brand? I want to hear it all, the good and the bad (c'mon, there must be a few).

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Old 02-20-2005, 10:21 AM
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patrick,

hi, I bought a new 210 chaos last november, and i love it. you will not find a tougher boat than the triumph. I have a buddy that owns a SeaTow franchise. He made the trip down to florida after last years hurricanes to help with boat recovery. He called to inform me that they pulled a 210 that was thrown 250 yards into the woods. They hooked a chain to it,put it on a trailor,and unloaded it back into the water. the boat only had minor scratches. This was the only boat they found that was still in sea worthy condition. The only thing i find negative about the 210 is lack of dry storage. But with a little and work small modifications this can be overcome. if you decide on the 210 you will be happy with it. In my opinion, the pluses outweigh the negatives.

Jason
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Old 02-20-2005, 10:48 AM
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first off -welcome to the group!!
if you havent yet , i suggest you read all the messages posted by our members . we tend to point out the short fall of our boats more than the good points. however , until you take that test ride after geting pounded by the other brands you mentioned, will you ever appreciate how dry and soft these boats ride.
the 210cc i own is my second triumph with the first being a 186 bay.
i'm so sold on these boats that the current 210 i own is q2 boat that doesn't have any factory warranty with it. i have made numerous improvements on it myself and it is that ease of maintaining that sold me on the boats as well as the ride.
these boats have a unique set of material and upkeep issues , but in my opinion are easier to work with than any glass boat ive owned in the past
we have several owners in your area that i'm sure will respond to how the boats handle in your area
just remember ,flex is a good thing- cept in a fiberglass boat!!!! flex and how it absorbs the shock of waves is what sets these boats apart from all others and the 'glass dealers do not want you to know this.
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Old 02-20-2005, 11:55 AM
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I was a baiting rookie when I bought my 210. The primary selling facors for me were the ease of maintenance and cost. I have not been disapointed. The boat has been great. I have towed to NC to fish and went out in 4-6 ft seas taking a couple 8 footers going out the inlet. The ride doing 18mph in those seas was unbelievibly soft. The only water that came in my boat fell from the sky that day. I have also towed to FL AL and lake erie. I have hit rocks and dock iwth nothing more than minor scratches. Lets see you fix a glass boat that ceaply. I have fished with 6 full grown adults on the boat and skied and tubed and had no problems at all. I dont believe I could have been happier even if I spent the extra 12,000 for the other baots i had looked at.

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Old 02-20-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: read all previous threads

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first off -welcome to the group!!
Thanks Robert.


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if you havent yet , i suggest you read all the messages posted by our members . we tend to point out the short fall of our boats more than the good points. !!
I did. I spent three good hours last night reading everything and checking all the pics. This is a great website. I did also notice the New England get together for June. Who knows I may join.
I read the threads about Triumph's customer service. This is very reassuring. Great to know they stand behind their boats.


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we have several owners in your area that i'm sure will respond to how the boats handle in your area
I did see that from the memberlist. Can't wait to hear from them.

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Old 02-20-2005, 06:52 PM
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Why am I purchasing a Triumph 210 CC? Well, there are many reasons. I wanted a boat as big as possible that would fit into my garage. With the Triumph 210 CC, if I lay the top of the center console down (toward the seats) the height issue is solved. I wanted a boat that had a GREAT ride. As we get older, comfort starts becoming more of an issue. Knees do not like to be punished the way they once were. Read what others say, or go for a test ride, the 210 should give me the best ride of any boat that this size. I wanted a boat where my wife could have a porta-potti. This was her one request, so I had better listen. The mega storage in front of the center console is so deep that she said it would work, and there is NO claustrophobia from a small enclosure in a center console. Besides, we can always install a Portable Privacy Partition from Overton’s if needed. We have a 17 year old son. This will be his first boat, so one question was would we want a fiberglass boat bouncing off docks as he learns? Or, as we get older, we will probably be the one’s hitting the dock a little harder than we should. There is a marina close to us that has a fleet of old “Logic’s” for their rental fleet. Even though their customers keep hitting docks, bridges, oyster beds, sandbars, other boats, etc., these boats just keep taking the punishment. The marina sells boats, not Triumphs, yet they still have their Roplene rental fleet. After listening to the stories from the marina’s head maintenance man about their rental fleet, we can’t imagine why anyone would want a fiberglass boat. We also wanted to be able to have time to enjoy the water. So why have to make time to polish a fiberglass boat. The Triumph has to be the easiest boat to keep clean. I may be retired, but I did not retire to spend my time polishing a boat.

We have spent the last three years studying boats and trying to determine the best boat for our family. We have determined that there is no “Perfect” boat. If there was, no one could afford it. Just as in life, every boat has pluses and minuses. Triumph can not be the one boat for everyone, but they are the boat for my family. The negative words I have heard or read about Triumphs have come from people that have not owned a Triumph. They complain that the boat does not shine, so I don’t want to polish a boat. They complain that the boat flexes, but if that gives me a better ride, then I want flex. No, I do not agree with or like everything concerning Triumph and their company policies, but I also do not expect everyone to agree with me.

You stated in your member profile that your occupation was “Internal Audit.” Keep that audit hat on and do your research. Hopefully it won’t take you three years to order your new Triumph like it did me.

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Re: read all previous threads

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we have several owners in your area that i'm sure will respond to how the boats handle in your area
PAX - I'm in SW CT, about 55 miles from NYC - not necessarily close, but at least in the NE.

I own the 190 Bay and use it in the LI Sound. I haven't seen the 05 Ropolene, but my 02 hull is a dull-white color. So if you're into flashy-pretty, then Ropolene may be a little embarrassing at the dock. But I exclusively fish, so the ease of just hosing the boat off and not having to wax a gel-coat is one of the biggest selling points for me - including durability. I care very little about the finish. Also, I tend to be a little rough on my equipment. I've banged the bow eye and just about everything else on the dock. Even have a few scratches/gouges. I also drift very shallow reefs. I’ve even drifted up against rocks and have beached the boat on the marbles. I'm certain a fiberglass boat would've spider-cracked along the way.

I've had numerous guys approach me at the dock asking about the boat. They have all said "wow, I never really knew these boats existed. Sure would've looked at 'em if I did." But there are always those with too much money or are just too in love with Contenders, etc.

I spoke briefly with a Sea Tow guy out of Fairfield, CT. He says that the stations that use the 210 love their boats. Those boats have been reinforced with aluminum for towing, but the basic hull is the same.

Separately, I'd be interested in talking with you about your job as an internal auditor. You can PM me on this site. I'm an external auditor for one of the accounting firms.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:48 PM
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pax,
I agree with all of the above. These are tough boats, they don't shine like a glass boat, but they are great vessels. I thoroughly enjoyed my boat last season and look forward to this year.
Whatever you decide, come down and join us in Falmouth this June, you can check out the boats first hand. I'm sure you can hop a ride with one of us.

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