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Old 06-03-2007, 07:23 PM
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Bow weight.

Well this was an interesting observation I have made with my 210. A couple of weeks ago I decided to change out my anchor line and chain. I have had my old one for 6 years as it dates back to my 2000 logic. Since we deal with a lot of current if we want to fish the jetties, I increase the length and size of chain to 8 feet of 5/16” and 200 feet of ½” rope to aid in setting the anchor. Since then, the last couple of time I have been out the water has been rough so WOT hasn’t been an option, but I had noticed the boat was handling a bit different. It seemed to be bow steering more then usual. So today we had the boat out and I was able to go to WOT. No matter how I trimmed the boat out I was 4 knots off of the top speed of the boat! Anyways, I started thinking about it, and decided move the anchor, chain and rope to the stern. BINGO, boat jumped right up like it always had. Best guess in weight, is that I increase it by about 20-25 pounds. It really seems funny that the boat is so balance sensitive. Guess I just need to let those splash wells fill up with water! Anyways, should anyone else feel they are bow steering too much, just check your bow weight!
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:49 PM
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I'm glad you brought this up. I thought it was because I did not have trim tabs on my 210. My twins are 4 1/2 now and when they kneel on the bow seat, I lose 1-2 knots at 3700rpm cruising. They are 74lbs total. Another 2 knots if my wife joins them. Unknown weight.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:27 AM
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That is very strange and I would check for water in the inner hull and install / open and check inner hull drains on any boat that is that sensitive to such a little weight movement astern

This for it would lead me to believe that the hull is already bow heavy from carrying some extra water weight, and the slight weight shift is just allowing it to drain aft and get even more weight off the bow. Pop the mega hatch open and walk around inside it on the deck (not the false floor) and see if you hear some squish of water under your feet as you move about if so, she is water heavy and it needs to be drained off
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:33 AM
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That is very strange and I would check for water in the inner hull and install / open and check inner hull drains on any boat that is that sensitive to such a little weight movement astern

This for it would lead me to believe that the hull is already bow heavy from carrying some extra water weight, and the slight weight shift is just allowing it to drain aft and get even more weight off the bow. Pop the mega hatch open and walk around inside it on the deck (not the false floor) and see if you hear some squish of water under your feet as you move about if so, she is water heavy and it needs to be drained off
That was my first fear, I checked the inner hull drains and found them to be dry and tight. Also since my boat is in a craddled lift. I have the angle set so that there is a 6 inch overall drop. Hence, the boat drains very well when washing it out. If there was water in the inner hull, it all should be at the aft after hanging for a week and make it squat when it first hits the water. But the boat sits in the water perectly with the swim platform about 1 inch out the water (same as the day I got it). No problem with water coming in the scuppers. Bilge pump almost never runs when on the water, only when abcking down in waves or washing the boat.

Given the history I had with my 2000 Logic, I am really familar with water in hull. So I had thought about drilling the transom for the plugs. I just hate to do that if the boat is tight, which it appears to be. Since it is due for an oil change, I think I will pull it out this weekend and give it a good going over. Well let you let know how it goes!
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I leave mine on a hill with the jack all the way up. Mine sits in the water the same as Piledriver. The bildge runs when swimmers are in and out, and the scuppers let in some water with all the in/out. I was worried about the water inside, so I started parking it on a steep hill. I also have to empty the transom wells after every outing to keep the weight down. Tiresome, but I still love the boat. Am waiting for Triumph to come up with something before I make a permanent fix.
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