Triumph 215 rusting bolts causing hull leaks

[OspreyVic]

Fish2XS, glad you found out about the problem.

I sincerely apologize for anything I posted. We sometimes just get gun shy from others that want to bash without following the proper protocol of contacting the dealer first, and then the manufacturer if all else fails. We understand that not all dealers are perfect, and not all manufactures are perfect either.

While we have not always agreed with Triumph, especially as it relates to our circumstance, they have been fair to all that we have knowledge of. No, we do not know of every owners problem, I am sure, but what problems we do know of we feel that the manufacturer has bent over backwards to be fair. And, you can ask my wife, my own ego is large enough not to put up with a bunch of XXXX from any boat manufacturer.

We wish you and your son much success in solving all of your boats problems. We love our plastic boat and wonder why anyone has a glass boat that they have to polish.

[MolarBoater]

OK, I almost responded to this thread early and the one I deleted sounded just like ILL Logic AL's. I've been on these threads from a long way back and this was news to me as I read most all new threads.

I have had issues but they have all been addressed when I first do the obvious.
1) contact the dealer
2) contact Triumph
3) report to Triumphowners.net once a plan has been established.

I do not, complain and whine on the internet then wait till the "official" diagnosis unfolds then have to either down play my original post or "eat crow".

This site is not for rants or criticism, it is about constructive advise and constructive criticizm on occasion.

Too many "new" posters want to discover this site and complain and learn lastly when they should be "not typing" and studying all threads and posts ever written on this site as well as "waiting" for an "official" diagnosis and treatment plan.

Way too many "non owners" floating around giving uneducated opinions about modifications and backyard improvements.

Fish2XS, welcome to the brotherhood, this is not directed at you entirely but at the evolving attitude of many "new posters" on all the thread topics, we are here to help everyone but calm down and substanciate all claims so we can work thru hysteria and get your concerns taken care of....seriously....we are a brotherhood of concerned OWNERS.

Now, I am done whining and ranting.

Going fishing and Margaritas on me!

[Codfish]

Fish2XS,

Aluminum or Stainless Steel? I bet the dealer meant the latter. All the 210/215's have a flat piece of SS in the keel line. Several of us have found rust in the area of the bilge near the transom where some bolts are covered with big gobs of elastomeric sealant.

I own an '04 210 and have not found this problem that you describe. Sounds like maybe some boats had the internal stiffeners misplaced in the roto mold and they are too close to the surface to avoid salt water intrusion, therefore they rust some. I bet your dealer can fix it and then you just need to watch closely to be sure the problem does not resurface, so to speak.

As a follow up to your problem, like Piledriver mentioned, you should have the dealer check for water in the inner hull. The "other internet source" you mentioned may be having that problem as well. Steer that source to this owners net and they too will find the solution to their problem. Like Berto, I have been around this site for some time now and your problem is a new one to specific issue but sounds similar to some that have already come up.

I wish you luck with the dealer. They will be the ones responsible for making this right with your son. Let's hope they do.

Let us know how the tuna fishing goes. Codfish

[PileDriver]

Well pulled the boat up out the water today. Man did it need a pressure washing! Anyways I crawled up under her and sure enough I see what 2XS is talking about. While my spots are not rusting at all, they are definately part of the manufacturing process. In fact it looks as if there are 3 per side. In addition, Triumph placed what looks like solid roplene clamshells in front of them. I am assuming this is done to disturb the water flow over them. It was getting dark so I will take pictures in the morning for a reference shot.

I sure had a lot more scratches under there too,,,,,,**** skinny water and oyster reefs!

[FISH2XS]

Originally Posted by PileDriver

What did you son find online? Since I have an 2004 I am extremely interested!

I'll get back to you in a couple days, hopefully with photos.

[Codfish]

All owners of '04s will be very interested to see just exactly what you are talking about Fish2XS.

Codfish

[FISH2XS]

I do not, complain and whine on the internet then wait till the "official" diagnosis unfolds then have to either down play my original post or "eat crow".

This site is not for rants or criticism, it is about constructive advise and constructive criticizm on occasion.

I should just let this go, but I'm curious. Where did I rant. where did I eat crow, where was my critisium?

I just asked for information as to if others have seen this problem so I could be informed when I went to the dealer.

Sorry if I offended some of your sensibilities.

I see a lot of this same drama on other fishing sites. Don't know if I want any more. maybe I'll just do what we all should do, go fishing.

Was this a rant?

[NCangler]

Fish2XS, I reread your posts and I don't think you were ranting. You just presented a problem that had arisen and wanted to find out if others had seen it. I think what the guys were communicating though was that it would be good to contact a dealer first about an issue like this then report the findings. Sometimes a suspected issue can generate a lot of angst that may not be necessary and getting an official word up front can possibly avoid some of that. But at the same time I understand your desire to approach the dealer with any information you could find on the potential issue.

Some of us that have been here awhile are a little sensitive to the "potential" drama that you spoke of, as we've had a couple of folks join before that were not contributing, just complaining. Sorry that you felt this was directed completed at you because I don't think it was. But I do think we all need to go fishing.

[ILLOGICAL GGC]

piledriver

the only place that has clamshells is where the fish/storage boxes are not under the console or at the transom as this is where the s.s. strip runs.
does your boat have the thru hull drains installed in the fish boxes?? the clamshell is a formation left over from when the boats were first made and had little rubber stopper like drain plugs that would pop out while underway and flood the fishbox . triumph i think later quit installing the thru hull drains but left the clamshell as it was part of the mold and this is where we current owners are redrilling and putting the screw in type drains at. now some of us are finding that there can possibly be issues with that area not being a solid plastic kissoff area and if not allows water to get between the inner/outer hulls as has been kicked around here forever. if you got box drains then that is where the water can be seem leaving the boat if they are unscrewed or could be leaking inner hull water if the plugs are in and the ropolene is failing .....
but then again ,i don't know exactly what you were describing going on at the clamshells in your post --i may have been typing for the wrong issue all together ..oh well ,can't go fishing in a gale ,so i will enlighten ya'll on some history!!!!! anyways, there is a contra dance tomorrow--heck it is tomorrow --tonight !!!

[PileDriver]

Ok gentlemen, here are the photos from under my 2004, 210 hull. The first shows the factory clamshell with a plugged hole to the left. So Illogical was correct, these are from the older factory mold. However, in the second picture, you can see another plug that isnt assocaited with a clamshell. In fact is is in line with the center console as 2XS described or about 18" behind the clamshell and right inline with the large deck screw which is just aft of each step down on each side. So I think it is actually a nut and bolt system used for the stainless steel stringer system which is then plugged on the bottom side.

No other issues were noticed under the hull, except for the lovely TEXAS Water Stain! Getting under the hull is a pain with the pressure washer!