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Old 06-04-2007, 09:29 PM
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Triumph 215 rusting bolts causing hull leaks

Anyone else have this problem?

My son took his boat to a couple of mechanics (close friends) to have his brakes checked out. His boat is only two years old, but the whole system looks like something even a junk yard would not put their hands on. COMPLETELY RUSTED OUT!

Unfortunately that's not the main problem.

When our friends were checking out the brakes they noticed a couple of dripping spots on the hull. Both spots are pretty much in alignment with the center console, and evenly spaced.

There's a large spot of rust surrounding both holes, with what appears a bolt heads just under the surface. My son tried to take pictures, but what he has are poor quality, too poor to attempt to post, but the dripping is very evident.

He contacted the dealer where he purchased the boat, but the owner is away until next week.

My son plans to take it to the dealer when he returns, and intends to stay with the boat until he gets some kind of resolution with the problem.

In the mean time I wanted to find out if others have had this problem and what was their outcome.

Thanks for any feedback.

Thank God the tuna have not started offshore yet in San Diego. That would be a big bummer!
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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Fish2xs, sorry your son is having problem’s.

While I have no way to prove if it is helping, we spray our axles, brakes, and wheels with Salt Away every time we dunk the trailer. When we launch our boat, we use a garden type sprayer with Salt Away before we leave the dock. After we retrieve our boat, we again use a garden type sprayer with Salt Away before we leave to head home. After we flush the motor at home, we again spray our axles, brakes, and wheels with Salt Away, but with more force.

Salt eats metal, we all know that. What I am doing may help or it may be a waste of my time, but I am trying to do something to help my equipment last longer.

I guess what I am trying to say is something like: OK your son has a problem or more than one problem. We are sorry, but you give us nothing to go on.

Even with what I am trying to do to make my brakes last longer, I still know they will fail. They are metal, they are dunked in salt when hot, they are allowed to sit all day while I am having fun, they then get to be very hot again as I travel home. Sorry, but I am not expecting miracles. It was my choice to place my equipment into salt water. Because of that, the equipment will have a much shorter life. I did it, and no one held a gun to my head.

Please let us know the results after the dealer looks at the boat. The holes you mention could be from the front fish boxes located in the floor. On my boat, the dripping would definitely be there if I had not drained the fish boxes before putting the boat into the garage.

In my opinion, to bash the boat without all of the facts is really not fair to you, your son, your dealer, or the manufacturer. We also need to remember that Triumph did not make your trailer. Your son had the option to get the trailer supplied with the boat or get his own trailer. That was his choice. In our case, we chose to get our own trailer, but everyone has that choice.

We wish you and your son good luck in solving all the problems with his boat.
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In my opinion, to bash the boat without all of the facts is really not fair to you, your son, your dealer, or the manufacturer. We also need to remember that Triumph did not make your trailer. Your son had the option to get the trailer supplied with the boat or get his own trailer. That was his choice. In our case, we chose to get our own trailer, but everyone has that choice.
First of all where did I bash anyone? I expected some feed back on a problem we're having, not a lesson in ettiquite.

I thought the facts were pretty clear. The boat is leaking from two holes, equally spaced, in the area of the center console, not at the drain holes for the fish boxes which are I would guess 4' away. The holes are surrounded with rust from what appears to be embedded bolts.

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I guess what I am trying to say is something like: OK your son has a problem or more than one problem. We are sorry, but you give us nothing to go on.
What more can I give you?

Does anyone have problems with leaks as I described?

And please don't tell me I'm bashing anyone.

Thanks.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:34 PM
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Fish2XS

You stated "There's a large spot of rust surrounding both holes, with what appears a bolt heads just under the surface. My son tried to take pictures, but what he has are poor quality, too poor to attempt to post, but the dripping is very evident."

This is a little puzzling so i am just trying to understand. So it is like there is a countersinking hole and then a layer of roplene over these bolt heads?

Did you have any non-factory installed options like a T-top installed?

Also have you noticed the boat sitting lower or feeling heavy when under power?

Have you checked the inner bilge area hull drains?
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If someone could provide pictures it would help. There are a couple of ports under the boat for feeding and draining the baitwell. Are you talking about those? Would this thread relate:

Bait tank pick up / Drain leaking
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I Have An O1 210 Cc And Do Not Have What You Are Describing. I Have Been On This Board From Day One And The Previous One As Well And I Dont Recall Ever Seeing What You Are Describing I Think This May Have Been A Factor In Tone To Others Not Knowing Your Problem ,'cause This Is A New One To Most Of Us. I Would Suggest You Get It To A Triumph Dealer And Let Them See What You Are Talking About Since They Are The Ones That Will Do The Warranty Repair Or See That The Factory Gets This Looked After For You. Your Son's Boat Has The Best Warranty Out There And It Needs To Be Seen By A Dealer First.

My Trailer Is An 04 Ez Loader Furnished By And With Triumph's Logo . And, With The Use Of Salt Away Each Trip ,it Looks In Pretty Darn Good Shape And I Am In Salt Water 95% Of My Fishing.
I Think What Was Alarming To The Others Is Like Me Is We Don't Have Rust Buckets At 2 Years Use Because We Know What Happens To Metal If Not Protected And Maintained Properly.

The Last Thing Anyone Would Purposely Do Is Bash A Fellow Owner . These Boats Have Enough Issues Without Us Having It Out With Each Other. I Suggest Your Son Get The Boat An Authorized Triumph Dealer And If They Say You Have A Problem Then Advise Us Of The Issue That We Should Be Aware Of As Your Contribution To The Ongoing Drama That Is Triumph.
Myself And All Fellow Owners Are Here To Lend And Ear And Offer Suggestions Once We Fully Understand Your Issues ,so Keep Us Up To Date On The Outcome
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Got some good news today from AA Marine. The problem is not as serious as I thought. It's something that have had to deal with before.

A boater on another forum said he is having trouble with water that he does not know where it is originating from and will inspect his hull.

As I understand from my conversation with the dealer today the bolts are part of a aluminum stringer system to make the hull more rigid (didn't know that) and it is a simple 1 hour fix. They have to drill a couple holes and do a patch which I was assured would not be a problem in the future. Taking the boat in Saturday.

Thanks for the feed back.

PileDriver: The t-top was installed when the boat was purchased. And it does not have anything to do with the fish boxes as noted by my first paragraph.

I'll try to post before and after pics.
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Well glad to hear they have figured it out for you. I must admit this is a new one, as Illogical stated he hadnt heard of this one before and neither had I. Guess maybe all of us should crawl under the boat a little more often!

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Well glad to hear they have figured it out for you. I must admit this is a new one, as Illogical stated he hadnt heard of this one before and neither had I. Guess maybe all of us should crawl under the boat a little more often!

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My son found some more info online. It seems to have been a problem with the 2004 model.

But just in case, as you said: "Guess maybe all of us should crawl under the boat a little more often!"
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What did you son find online? Since I have an 2004 I am extremely interested!
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