215- lists to port

[FISHOCD]

I have a 2007 215cc powered by a 150 Honda V-tech motor.Other than some initial wiring and bilge pump problems I absolutely love my boat. The only complaint I have now is this. When it gets up on plane the boat lists to the port side. To level it out it takes a full size adult standing against the starboard rail. The weight distribution is not an issue as I don't carry anything heavy on either side of the boat. This has been a problem since new and dosen't seem to have any serious effect on handling but is more of an annoyance. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced a similar problem. By the way I weigh 150 lbs. and if alone on the boat I can stand to the right of the wheel and it makes no difference. I'm sure installing trim tabs would solve the problem but I don't feel that they should be needed to make the boat ride level. Any insight or comments are welcome.
Thanks: Fishocd.

[rudderhinge]

FISHOCD, My 2006 215 does the same thing and has since day one. If the boat sets level in the water when your not moving then your boat weight distribution is probably right. I even moved my batterys to the starboard side in the bottom of the CC. I even checked the hook that is built in on the bottom of the boat but both sides where the same and it set level in the water
. More than likely and im sure the same for my boat, what is causing the boat to lists to the port while on plane is engine/prop torque.
I ordered my boat with trim tabs and they do level the boat out but the port tab is always lower than the starboard one. Good luck. Bob

[Trooper1]

I have a 175 Suzuki on my 215 and have to agree with rudderhinge. The boat tends to lower to port when up on plane and over 35mph. It must be related to the motor more than the boat. I also have trim tabs and when loaded with gear and passengers they are a life saver. If you plan on using your boat in the ocean or a rough body of water I would highly advise you to get some tabs. It makes for a much nicer ride on plane and better control with a following sea or when you are in an inlet . Hope this helps best of luck.

[PileDriver]

I am sure all of you have already check this but if not remember there is a drain plug on each side of the bilge area. This is to drain and check see if any water is in the inner hull. I would reccomend checking this out, as I have a 210 with a 2006 150 honda and do not have the issue you are describing here. I do know that our boats are weight sensitive and just adding 20 pounds of ice to one side will cause it to list. I do have trim tabs and love them for this reason!

[Putershark]

I would relate this as "P- Factor" and is the same reason why a Helicopter has a tail rotor and why when taking off in a small single engine prop aircraft, you have to give her right rudder to hold her straight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-factor.

You are putting power to the prop and the torque of such, is causing the boat to list. Much more common on a 210 series than a 190 due to the deep vee hull and power these engines when propped correct or under propped can produce My old 210 with that monster 200 HPDI was bad about such till I worked out the under prop issue.

First thing I would check is to make sure you are not over-revving that engine when at WOT. It may need a larger prop to back off the RPM's some, which will also give you better launch and lower cruise (less fuel burn) RPM's at the same time.

Also I have seen the cavitation plates like the BMS model (the search tool on the home page will help you find those threads) help negate such by creating more stern lift. After installing such first, which is got to be one of the best ROI upgrades you can make for 30 bucks to any Triumph hull I would then test how your current prop reacts and then if needed, either install Pro-pulse prop with it's adjustable pitch or swap out a few stainless 3 blades models till you get it all dialed in

Lastly would I would not spend the money to install trim tabs (though a great tool) to correct for such due to the cost. Trim tabs can also become a expensive band-aid and force more drag on the hull to correct (cover up) for a condation could be more prop / power related that still needs attention, but is no longer as apperant now that you have the ablity to drop a tab down and add drag to fix.

Hope this helps some?

[FISHOCD]

Thank you everyone for your input, at least I know now that this problem is not only on my boat. I am planning to have trim tabs installed as I occassionally venture out of the Ocean City Md. Inlet. Before I have the trim tabs installed I think I will try some different props, as my stock prop has nearly 100hrs on it and is starting to show some wear and tear. My biggest problem at this point is going to be giving up precious fishing time to experiment with new props. I guess for now I'll just have to make my brother in-law a permanent fixture on the starboard rail. Thanks again for all your input. Fishocd:

[rudderhinge]

FISFOCD, I don't know about your brother-in-law, but a set of trim tabs would cost me less than hauling my brother-in-law around and I can at lest depend on my trim tabs. Bob

[spoonman]

I have the exact same problem since day one with my Suzuki 140 4-stroke---I have to tell people to hang to starboard.

I have no real idea....the prop/torque seems a possible answer.

It is just plain annoying......that's all

If anything is learned, i want to know...When I bought the boat I had them install a SS prop...maybe the original would not not have cased the listing.............help!

Spoonman

[Cape Codder]

If You Go To Forums And Then To 150cc And Then About 5 Threads Down You Will See My Post On" Listing To Port" And How I Solved The Problem. Im Sure You Have The Same Situation I Did. Hope It Helps.

[tylerderdan]

Despite the persuasive argument against trim tabs here, I think they are one of the best investments you can make on your boat. Your boat will ride differently in all kinds of conditions and trim tabs, despite adding a little drag will certainly make your ride much more comfortable. In cases where you are running long distance accross swell and don't want to be leaning the whole way it can make a two or three hour ride go from miserable to enjoyable.