help with inner hull drain

[NCangler]

Originally Posted by rudderhinge

Look guys, Not all Triumph boats have the problem of getting water in this area, in fact most don't. A lot of people have done modifications to their boat and caused even more problems for themselves. If I do something to my boat and mess things up I can't expect Triumph to straighten it out. They have been and are very good at handling problems with their product, so give them a chance first. Please don't cause problems for yourselves, think about what your doing and ask yourself if this needs to be done and is it really a problem.
I have seen people do things to their boats and cause a lot of problems and then blame it on Triumph. Then they want to get on the computer and tell everyone what a bad product we have and how they where done wrong. Thats just not right. So be cautious.

I could not have this better. It is about personal responsibility. Triumph provides a great warranty on their boats. They are building a dealer network to sell, service and support them. Be still before you drill. Check your hull warranty, check with your dealer, solicit some input from other members here, then make a decision about any modification to your boat. But remember it is your boat and your responsibility. If you mess it up, fix it but don't blame someone else for it. But if it has a problem and is under warranty by all means contact your dealer and have them take care of it. That is what warranties are for.

Thanks for the common sense reminder rudderhinge.

[walkerm]

Gents-

I think there is multiple issues going on. One is the inner hull drain, one is the void area under the gas tanks, one is the void in the transom area.

I have a 2006 215 and have water in all three. I first contacted the factory and they said to put in an inner hull drain, which I did. It gets very little water out.

Then I noticed my boat leaning to one side so I pulled up the deck and drilled a tiny inspection hole as mentioned by Bob. Guess what...full of water.

This is on top of fixing the transom voids that were also full of water. I love the boat but never dreamed that I would be having so many issues with a new boat. I have a call into Triumph to ask them about this water under the gas tank. I appreciate all the comments that little water is normal in boats, but I am starting to think I bought a defective boat. I'll see what the factory says.

Monty

[rudderhinge]

walkerm,
Did you drill inspection holes on both side of the keel brace? And if so did both sides have water in them?
I havent seen any 215's that had water in the voids, not have water on both sides. Im sure that it could happen, I just never seen it.
If you drilled both sides and they had water in them, then that should not make your boat lean to one side.
Are you talking about the boat leaning while it is setting still or while it is under way? Most 215 will lean (list) to the Port side while under power. This is caused due to prop torque. Did it just start listing or has it always did it? You may have other problems that can cause the boat to list. Do you have trim tabs? Not that you need them, they are just the only way that I know of to correct for prop torque.
The transom voids will not drain out of the inner hull drain. The gas tank voids will not drain out of the inner hull drain. Most people that put inner hull drains in only get drips.
You are doing the best thing by calling Triumph. Let us know how it works out. Good luck, Bob

[walkerm]

Bob-

Drilled both sides, Yes
Water in both, Yes
List slightly while in the water, not underway. I do have trim tabs and understand the torque issue.

I called both Triumph and the dealer and am taking the boat in for inspection.

I understand all the voids, just want to figure out how and why water is getting in the gas tank void. I'll report back what I find. I'll get through it, still love the boat, just get frustrated at times. Thanks for the help, and possibly this will help others as well.

Monty

[rudderhinge]

walkerm,
I understand your frustration.
The water is getting in the tank void through the keel support seam. For whatever reason this seam doesen't get sealed very well at times. Some times the water will get in the void around the glob area aft of the tank. That is whan you can see water running out of the glob area when the front of the boat is raised.
But remember that the seam and keel supports run from the front of the tank to past the aft end of the tank and there is three glob areas (bolts) along that seam. This means, if the elastomeric seal is not installed properly than any time water fills the bilge of the boat, water can get into the void from any part of the seam and bolts that are not sealed. Hope this helps you understand how water get in the void a little better.
My boat use to list to the port side when it was setting in the water. When I started looking to see why, the only thing I could find that might cause that was both of the batteries where installed on the port side of the bottom of the center console. I moved them to the center and the boat set level after that.
Anyway your doing the right thing by talking with Triumph and the dealer. Good luck man and keep your chin up. Bob.

[Stalker]

Is there a problem with leaving the water inside? Other than weight and possible listing. I think drilling is beyond me and I don't have a local dealer.

[Putershark]

I can see it damage more things if it freezes inside the hull and really, it is simple to drill and install them. Just measure twice and drill once

Now Randy posted some pictures of the ones that are already factory installed in both 210 and 190's hulls, did you see those pictures yet?

[walkerm]

Update to posted thread on water in gas tank void. Thanks to Joe and Jared at Johnson Marine in Ontario, Ca for inspecting and repairing the boat under warranty. The suspect is the glob area letting in water. Jared drilled test holes in bottom of boat to test foam areas and then re-welded these areas closed. After this cleaned and recoated glob area with additional rule. They also removed and re-welded the transom drain. So it is essentially back to stock, all covered under warranty. Johnson Marine is top notch. I will continue to watch for water intrusion issues, and believe that I understand the boat better. Triumph factory responded in five minutes to an email I sent, so I can respect the reputation and brand that they are trying to build. Will be taking family out to watch boat parade in Newport, Ca this weekend.

Monty

[recycle]

How do you tape the vacto the glob and be effective?

Did you cut a hole thru it?

thxs

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