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Old 09-04-2007, 04:08 PM
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help with inner hull drain

I have water driping up through the bildge in the center glob. I parked my boat on the incline of the drivway, and water is still driping. I drilled the hole about 1.75" up and 1.5" to the left side because the boat tilts a little that way. After drilling through the plastic I hit what I think was the foam, a littel darker. No water came out of the hole and the foam is really hard to make the little pocket for the water. The water is still coming out of the glob. Am I doing this right or do i need to drill deeper into the foam. I am about .75" into the foam.
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I have an old glass boat while waiting to get my Triumph, made in 1978 it is completely water logged in the foam, I got a room dehumidifier from Lowe's and placed it on the deck with several thru holes cut down to the foam. then I installed a drain hose to the water catcher and lead it out of the boat drain hole. I then got a big cheap wall mart tarp some bungie cords and a couple of rolls of duct tape, after stretching the tarp out with the bungies I used the tape to seal of the tarp around the outside of the hull and let it run with a five gallon bucket under the transom to catch the water...after three buckets of water in about two days things started to slow down and I stopped ... and plugged the holes up... I think I need to do it again tho.....This really helps the drying out process...
I have tried to drill holes in the outer hull and let the water drip out but the foam just won't let...the dehumidifier is the way to go on this......
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:00 PM
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what year is the boat---the glob leak is usually in the logic era boats with 85 gal fuel tanks. if it is a logic the water is coming from the bilge pump hose wearing the rule away from the floor over a stainless steel strap in the stringer. all the rule in that area needs to be removed and resealed and the bilge pump raised by adding a block of starboard under the pump. if it is an '02 or later, it is the first instance i am aware being discussed here
as for the drain you are also the first i know to put one on the left side of center. several of us have kicked around the need to put another drain on the left side of the center stringer. as for depth i have over a foot of foam dug out .
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I don't want to get off track here, so let me start with the suggestion of doing a search on the forum to find the tons of posts dealing with this topic. I'm sure there are many here who have actually done this procedure and will offer up advice. I hope you get the help you need soon as I'm surethis is frustrating for you.
My issue here is that some of the newer hulls are still having inner hul water leaks. I have an 06 215 and have the drain plugs in place to drain the inner hull. I have not even looked to see if thereis water in there because the dealer said that all inner hull water issues have been solved and that the only hulls that did have inner hull water leaks were the 190's.
So I guess I need to add checking for inner hull leaks to me to do list...
The question I have is, where is the water coming from? The hulls on these boats are advertised as being a seamless unit. So is it poor sealing of screw holes? Are the rod holders on the sides of the cockpit as source for water getting? The fish box drains barely drain to start with, do these leak into the inner hull?
My point is that if there's water getting in, why hasn't the factory fixed the problem? Putting a drain plug in the bilge isn't a fix!
After reading the "water proofing fish box" thread earlier today and hearing someone with a newer hull saying they have water in the inner hull coming from the drainplugs really has me disappointed in the factory's handling this defect!
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The boat is an 05 210cc. I have read the posts on installing the drain.I thought there would be more water because of the amount coming out through the glob of rule down the center line in the bildge. Bildge pump on one side drain plug on the other.The water that is geting in could be coming from the crack in the anchor locker,rod holders that had to be flushed twice because gas was put in them,and all screws. I think there is a little water on top of the foam in the inner hull. Also do i use a screw driver to dig out the foam it is really hard.

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Old 09-04-2007, 06:49 PM
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This is not a defect,
All boats from the Ark to the USS Enterprise leak water and some like the Titanic take on water "Big Time" it is only a problem if you don't remove it

Any screw hole you or the factory make (worse if the boat sets uncovered in lot of rain like we have here) can allow water to migrate into the inner hull. The only "defect" (if you want to call it such) was the factory not just installing inner hull drains before shipment of every 210 and 190 hull and I still to this day do not see the the logic in not doing such

Now before I even put mine (now 3 year old) 190 into the water for the first time, I had installed a inner hull drain. This was a lesson I learned from the my old 210 that got full of water and I heard it when walking around in the floor of the mega hatch just forward of the console. Once I installed 2 inner hull drains on the old 210, it drained out for a few weeks and the boat got a lot lighter trust me

Like I said, water is not a problem unless it cannot be removed. With a inner hull drain and the bow setting a little high when on a trailer. It is not hard to get all the water back out and once drained, it stays that way quite well
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How deep have you totally drilled?? if only .75 you havent even gotten thru the transom yet. transom has high density i.e. hard form and the inner foam is soft. i do not think you have gone in far enough yet. as i posted earlier i have a open cavityarea that is over 12" deep for the water to collect in while the plug is in. there is gonna be alot of water coming out the hole if you have water coming up thru the stringer kinda concerned about the 1.75x1.5 location . seems a tad close to the center stringer but may be ok.

early model 210 had rod holders that had open bottoms. the factory simply put electrical tape on them to try to seal out water ,but it doesnt take long for the tape to fail. one quick way to know the condition of your rod holders is to fill full of water and leave them full for awhile. if the water drains out ,it is going into the foam. i pulled them out ,screwed male x barbed fittings in the bottom and put a piece of tubing out thru the rod holder. now they drain any water onto the deck.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:47 PM
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Smile glob leak

Check post "under the glob" page 10 date 4/12/06.

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I have a 2006 215cc that has had water coming up from the glob area. I had to install an inner drain in a six month old boat, which the factory reccomended I do. There is not water coming from the "factory" installed plugs in the bilge because they are two high. So the theory that it is just on the older boats is out.

I think it is a great boat. I think the factory needs to step up and put this inner hull thing out in the open. They need to install them on all boats coming out of the factory. This site is full of posts on this inner drain issue. The factory needs to address it head on, rather than the wait and hide approach that is happening now.

Again, love the boat, just don't think it is fair that owners have to do so much research and worry, and then install themselves. These boats are not cheap, at least not for me. Love the site as well, just get tired of hearing the same problem over and over.
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I have the 2004 210 CLE and installed the inner hull drain per the posted information on this site and it helps but every now and then I'll duct tape the wet vac nozzle in place on the "glob" and let it run for 30 minutes. I usually manage to pull out a few gallons. It's a hassle, but I feel like I'm accomplishing something. Hope that's useful......
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