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Old 02-20-2007, 07:40 PM
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That is a beautiful boat. I can't wait to see the test numbers on this boat, I am sure they will be awsome.
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235 vs 215 Triumph hull size

Here are a couple of photos of the first 235 hull out of the oven. You get a good idea of how much larger this boat is than the 215 sitting beside it. I was informed by the factory that the transom will be raised five inches before production starts to 30 inches, so these pictures represent a work in progress.



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I suppose this SKA fishing is a big thing in the southeast, but the reality of fishing for most of us is we are out there for fun, not profit. I don't care what the SKA guys run, I will buy Suzuki on my next boat if the dealer carries them.

To judge the new 235 based on SKA needs or desires is not the standard we should be using. Triumph will always sell to guys who desire more fishing time than polishing and more toughness around the docks. If Triumph built this boat just for the SKA fishing, then they have "missed the boat".

I have owned a large twin engine boat. The maintenance costs are double what they are for a single. No getting around that. This is more of a personal preference issue. There are definite advantages to twins, including manuverability around docks and ramps. All the usual arguements for and against are every where you look in the boating world. Yes, I do wish the 235 could handle twins, but I will not ignore the boat just because it can't.

My bottom line to all the negativity being generated is, how about waiting until the boat is really OUT so we can all look and test and report with certainty on what we like and dislike. I see positives all over this new boat over the 210 I currently own.

Who knows how long us left coasters will have to wait to see a production model. I for one will be seriously looking at them when that happens. Look for the ad on my 210.

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Funny how stuff gets started. I made the mistake of making a 'passing' comment that I cannot even back up with empirical evidence:
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It has the low profile bow rail which is popular with SKA and other fishing team boats.
I don't know if ProCon reacted to that or if his focus was more SKA acceptance. Regardless, I have not heard Triumph state anything about targeting the SKA audience. I'm sure they'd be happy to see a couple boats on that circuit but the target I imagine is still folks that want to get offshore to fish recreationally.
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I have read the post on the 235 and debated if I wanted to make a comment or not. I finally decided that I would. First of all Triumph ask us to come and look at the drawings and give our thoughts on it before they put it into production. There was several things that we thought should be different. One was the fish boxes in the front. We felt they should be level all the way across. I don't know how many of you have fished a tournament in 5-7 foot seas and tried to stand on the front seat to throw the net to get bait. You sometimes have trouble keeping your balance when it is that rough and you don't need to be worrying if you are going to be stepping back into a hole. And when it is that rough you sometimes need to be able to grab hold of something real fast to keep from going over when you are trying to throw a 12 ft net. So that is when the high bow rail has come in handy. I think it has kept me from throwing J.R. in the water several times. So I feel like that should be an option of low or high bow rails.

I don't think that the boat should be tested in Florida. Our 215 gets run pretty hard when we are fishing tournaments and we have been able to find out what will hold up and what won't. It needs to be tested off the Carolina coast in our rough seas to get a true test as to how it will hold up.

Some other things are, where is the cooler, how big is the gas tank, how big is the live well, what is the beam, what is the draft, t-top height for us short people, how many rod holders, inside height of center console, fishing room. Will it ride as well as the the 215? Is this going to be portrayed more as a fishing or pleasure boat? When I say fishing I am talking about tournament or for the die hard fishermen or ladies?

When I look at the pictures I see things that I think will not work for what we do but I want to reserve comment until I actually see the boat for myself before I decide what will or won't. The true test for me will be when we are in a tournament and running hard to keep up with some of our friends that are in bigger boats.

We have waited a long time for the 235 now is it going to be worth the wait and will it be the boat we need for what we do and will we be able to afford it? And will Triumph be openminded to our suggestions as they were on the the 215 when we ask them to change the mega hatch lid, bait well lid, etc.

We keep trying to win a tournament so we can give Triumph boats the recognition that they deserve. Maybe one of these days it will happen. For now I will be open-minded until I actually see the boat. Anybody know when that will be? I told Triumph we could be the research and development team and see how good it is.

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Funny how stuff gets started. I made the mistake of making a 'passing' comment that I cannot even back up with empirical evidence:
I don't know if ProCon reacted to that or if his focus was more SKA acceptance. Regardless, I have not heard Triumph state anything about targeting the SKA audience. I'm sure they'd be happy to see a couple boats on that circuit but the target I imagine is still folks that want to get offshore to fish recreationally.
As Cheryl mentioned above, when they (Triumph) solicit SKA member input one would could assume SKA/KMT would be a target audiance. Cheryl wasnt the only person solicited for input and the intent leaned heavily toward that type fishing. There are alot of things behind the scenes that went into the decisions process, heart-burn lies in some decisions for form,fit, function were over-rode.
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I've fished quite a few KMTs in the past and I'm an avid fisherman now, most of which is inshore/nearshore at this point in my life. I would like to see more/larger livewells on Triumph's boats and I'm like Randy; I'm sure Triumph would like to see a few boats on the SKA circuit. I also think their focus is on the average family style boating, whether its fishing or just pleasure boating. I think with their mass producton of roplene, as with any new technology, you have to focus on the masses in order to gain acceptance and a market share of the industry. I read everthing I could get my hands on about roplene for two years before I made the leap of faith to plastic boats. I think "Bubba" has helped more than SKA or anyone to boost their sales. Just another opinion.
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Other than thicker and higher sidewalls and bow compared to the 215, I don't see much more room on the inside......also the market for this type of boat demands dual outboards, but from what I read they might not offer them.

On the plus side, There is an opportunity to offer an insert for laying out like the 195.
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When will this boat be available for sale.......really would like one.
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I'd love one too...

looks like a monster next to the 215....
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