Triumph Biodiesel/jet powered boat - Marketing idea

[agereety]

Triumph boats are plastic - 100% recyclable. I've been
researching outboard jets, and I came across this
company below:
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http://www.swordmarine.com/
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They make diesel / jet driven motors that mount to the
transom of boats. Their product is called "Jetpac."
Anyway - if it were possible to convert it do be run
on biodiesel fuel - you would have yourself a very
"envvironmentally friendly" vessel there. Plus, it
would be powered by a jet drive, so there would be no
lower unit to harm manatees, endangered coral reefs,
sea grasses, etc..
I know Willy Nelson promotes biodiesel fuel- maybe he
would help promote it - or even write a song about it?

[Genelie]

I have this friend just up the street from me, that he makes bio fuel for his truck.....as for the jet drive, the only down fall is turning in a slow speed, kind of hard to do.

[BostonFisher]

That's a cool idea.

I wonder if anyone has ever actually recycled a Triumph before? It would make for quite a scene to tow it up to your local waste management plant and ask the guys where they want it- LOL!

[Dick@merrittmarine]

Back when I was at Logic, I came up with, what I thought was, the best marketing idea of the century! "YOU CAN TAKE IT WITH YOU", if you buy the option, when you die, the factory will recycle your boat into a casket! Apparently, no one else agreed with me. Come on guys, who agrees with me?
Let's get Randy to start a Casket Poll.

Dick

[NCangler]

Roplene caskets. Hmmmm...

Originally Posted by Dick@merrittmarine

Back when I was at Logic, I came up with, what I thought was, the best marketing idea of the century! "YOU CAN TAKE IT WITH YOU", if you buy the option, when you die, the factory will recycle your boat into a casket! Apparently, no one else agreed with me. Come on guys, who agrees with me?
Let's get Randy to start a Casket Poll.

Dick

I'd recycle mine into a casket but only if they would add a rod locker.

[Cape Codder]

Melt The Roplene Down To A Casket, Put It On Your Trailer And Take It Up To Boston Harbor. Name It The Pequot By Moby Dicks (merritt Marine) Casket Concession. Launch The Casket And Off You Go. Since Roplene Doesnt Sink God Only Knows Where Youll Travel To.

[Swamp_Bear]

Back to the topic of jet power, this is something I was VERY interested for years. Wouldn't it be great not to have to worry about snagging a crab pot? However, from everything I've read, jet drives don't do well on deep vee hulls. Best results require a minimum of 3' flat bottom before the intake. Yamaha seems to have figured out the best combination of deep vee entry and flattened pad on their 2300 jet boat.

I really need the deep vee to cary to the stern to run in the choppy sounds, so I chose prop and crabpot dodging.

The Jetpak concept doesn't appear to work as well in real life as it does in paper. Look at their videos of anything but a RIB, and the boat operates like it's bogged down in quicksand. I think it falls into the same problem as jet outboards, where the intake must take a very sharp turn up into the drive unit and back out, wheras a purpose built jet boat has a more linear intake/output lineup.

[agereety]

Possible alternative to jet drive

Clearly, the Jetpac jet driven outboard is not
practical. They're huge, heavy, and I believe they may
actually cost $20,000. Earlier, I made grandiose
claims of my intention of putting a jet drive on a
Triumph. That was before I realized that - what I
don't know about jet drives could fill many books! My
thought originally was - an indestructable hull needs
to be matched up with a motor that is also
indestructable. "A chain is only as strong as it's
weakest link", and to me - the weak link on a Triumph
boat is the lower unit of the outboard hanging below
the hull.
Here's what I have come to learn so far: only
certain hull designs are conducive to being matched up
with a jet drive outboard. These designs include: a
flat hull, a "radius" hull, a hull with a delta pad,
etc.. Other designs may "sort of" work, but they may
cause the motor to suck in air, as opposed to water.
With a jet drive - you get 1/3 less power vs.prop,
they can't steer well at low throttle, fuel economy
suffers, etc.. I love jet driven boats, but I am
abandoning that pursuit now regarding a Triumph boat
application.
If avoiding crab pots is your goal - you could check
out the product at the address below, but I am
unfamiliar with it:
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http://www.smalloutboards.com/j5598.htm
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Regarding the appropriate choice for an outboard -
one worthy of being matched up with a Triumph boat
hull - I am curious what others on this site might
think of putting a jack plate (possibly a "porta
bracket") with an outboard (with a low-water pickup)
on the back of a 190 Bay? With the stepped hull - I am
thinking this has possibilities. The site address for
porta brackets is
below:
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http://www.portaproducts.com/bracket.html
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A site address for Bob's Machine Shop - a company that
can, apparently, modify a lower unit to place the
water intake much lower on the outboard - is below:
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(scroll to "nose cones")
http://www.bobsmachine.com/
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Pictures of a porta bracket (ones that illustrate what
is possible- in terms of getting the outboard up
higher) can be seen on the site address below:
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(scroll down to first photo
http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...art=1&posts=10
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Would a porta bracket work on a 190 Bay?

[agereety]

DREAM BIG and "THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX"

The sites below illustrate what is possible when there
is no outboard lower unit hanging below the boat hull.At first - I was planning to try and figure out how to send this in a personal message to "Swamp Bear", but - on the off chance that it may be of interest to others - here it goes:
Some of the clips (particularly the first one) may
illustrate what some may consider to
be"inappropriate/reckless" boating. While I am not
advocating unsafe boating practices - the clips below
do have merit/redeeming value (in my opinion) . A
Triumph hull (strong plastic/virtually
indestructable) in these applications (if designed to
operate with a jet drive) - would be superior to all
others:
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http://www.whitewaterextreme.com/videoclips/2006.html
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The "Military Humdinga" ( jet drive) on the site
below might be my tow vehicle of choice for the
Triumph 190 Bay I intend to purchase this season:
Download the "Humdinga" (jet drive car/boat) video and
the "Quadski" (combination atv/jet ski) video at the
site address below:
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http://www.gibbstech.co.uk/mediacentre/video_media.php
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The site below shows an aluminum boat hull with "plastic strips" to aid the hull in sliding over rocks - why have plastic strips when you can have 100% high impact plastic ( a Triumph)?
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http://www.compeaus.com/phantom.html
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