Fuel Consumption

[jeepcj779]

I am new to the forum and I do not have boat yet, but I have narrowed it down to 3, the 215 CC, the 195 CC, and the 190 Bay. I wil be using the boat in the Bay River/Pamlico Sound area of North Carolina. I would also like to be able to go off shore. The deciding factor will most likely be what kind of deal I can get on a new boat, or if I can find an acceptable used one. Of course I want the 215 CC, but it may prove to be too expensive. My question is about the fuel consumption on the 190 Bay. Does anyone know where I can find out what the fuel consumption rates are on the different motors available with the 190 Bay? Thanks.

[ReelDive]

my 190 has the 115 yami 4s I'm almost always loaded wit people and gear. One of my friends has the 215cc with Evenrude E-Tec I use about 1/3 less fuel on side by side trips. 4 divers + gear on both boats. Last sunday a 24mi run half in 4+ ft seas. My fuel = 9.25 gal his = 13 gal. at $3 per gal that over $10

[Mark Marcoux]

I have an "06" 215 Chaos with the 150 Yami 4 stroke and I am very pleased with the fuel consumption. I don't have a floscan on it yet but I can say that I use 1/2 the fuel as all my fellow fishing buddies use. I've been in Virginia Beach area for the past few months and have made several trips to the CLT; Chesapeake Light Tower and to the CBBT; Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel from Rudy Inlet and on average 9 to 12 gallons per trip. If you are not familiar with the area CLT is 13 Mi and CBBT is everybit of that or out to 22 Mi depending on which Island you go to. Keep in mind that is oneway and not including the transit from the ramp to the inlet.

My comparison is 2 stroke to 4 Stroke. Naturally the 4 stroke gets better mileage. It's much quieter however I don't think it has the punch out of the hole like a 2 stroke. As for boat selection, ask yourself what fits your needs and then what will the primary use be.

Good luck,
Mark

[jeepcj779]

Thanks for the fast replies. I found some information on fuel consumption at www.boattest.com. The 190 Bay, according to the test, used more fuel than the 215 CC (could be attributed to the difference in environmental conditions). The 195 CC used more than the 215 CC as well. I don't know why that is, but with the 190 Bay being compared to the 215 CC, I figured it was a design difference based on the boats' different purposes, and the weather. I was not able to come up with any good reason why the 195 CC would burn more gas than the 215 CC though. Here are the numbers for best cruise:

190 Bay 1x130-hp Yamaha outboard; 90 degrees; 85% humid.; wind: 10-12 knots; seas: 2 feet:
RPM MPH Knots Total GPH MPG NMPG Range NM Range dBa
4500 29.9 26.0 10.1 2.96 2.57 104 90 90


195 CC 1x115-hp Yamaha 4-stroke; 79 deg., 70% humid.; wind: 3 mph; seas: calm:
RPM MPH Knots Total GPH MPG NMPG Range NM Range dBa
4000 19.9 17.3 6.0 3.31 2.88 134 117 83


215 CC 1x150-hp Yamaha 4-stroke 85 deg., 70% humid.; wind: 3 mph; seas: calm:
RPM MPH Knots Total GPH MPG NMPG Range NM Range dBa
4000 26.9 23.4 6.7 4.01 3.49 253 220 82

My questions would be, is it better to have more horse power for better gas mileage, and how much difference does the factory prop make? I am not sure who puts the props on, the engine makers, the boat makers, or the dealers. I would assume whoever did it would use the best all-around prop for a wide variety of conditions and the best economy. I have never bought boat though, so I don't have the slightest idea.
As far as what I want to do with the boat, I think I wil be evenly split between inshore salt water and near-off shore, out to about 30 miles. We would have to see if I would work up the courage in the future to go out further. Thats just the fishing. I would more than likely spend some time cruising as well because my wife has never been fishing, so she may not like it, which actually, in Pamlico County, NC, is considered grounds for divorce, so we will see about that.
We have been in Iraq for almost 15 months, and after we get back in October, we will be going to Ft. Bragg in the spring. I am from NC but I have not been fishing (seriously) in almost 10 years, and I can't wait to get back on the water.

[NCangler]

Welcome aboard jeepcj779 and thank you for your service to our country. We use our 215 Chaos most out of Oriental, NC on the Neuse River/Pamlico Sound, but we go offshore (30 miles the farthest trip to date) as well. I couldn't be happier with the 215/Yamaha 150 4-stroke combination. Now if you are going to be fishing skinny water most of the time you might consider the Bay Boat. But with the way the wind kicks up the Pamlico Sound and if you're wanting to go offshore, you'll be glad you went with the 195 or the 215. Both are great boats. The 215 just gives you a little more fishing room. I use mine in salt and fresh water and it is great. Be sure to check out my North Carolina Angler Fishing website when you get home (or before!). We cover fishing the Tarheel state from the mountains to the coast and have a number of military/ex-military members. It is a family-friendly site with some great anglers. Blessings to you and keep safe!

[jeepcj779]

Thanks again. I guess I will wait until the spring before deciding on anything. I at least need to see the boats first. I do prefer the 215 CC to the others, all things considered, and will be more than willing to give up 3 inches of draft for the versatility of the 215 CC as compared to the 190 Bay. Ultimately in will come down to the cost though. Whatever I buy will have to pass the Mama-test. We'll see next year. Enjoy the water.

[Mike in Maine]

Originally Posted by Mark Marcoux

I have an "06" 215 Chaos with the 150 Yami 4 stroke and I am very pleased with the fuel consumption. I don't have a floscan on it yet but I can say that I use 1/2 the fuel as all my fellow fishing buddies use. I've been in Virginia Beach area for the past few months and have made several trips to the CLT; Chesapeake Light Tower and to the CBBT; Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel from Rudy Inlet and on average 9 to 12 gallons per trip. If you are not familiar with the area CLT is 13 Mi and CBBT is everybit of that or out to 22 Mi depending on which Island you go to. Keep in mind that is oneway and not including the transit from the ramp to the inlet.

My comparison is 2 stroke to 4 Stroke. Naturally the 4 stroke gets better mileage. It's much quieter however I don't think it has the punch out of the hole like a 2 stroke. As for boat selection, ask yourself what fits your needs and then what will the primary use be.

Good luck,
Mark

Mark,
I beg to differ, I have a 150 Evinrude etec. Real quiet, great economy, no smoke and about 100 lbs lighter than your Yammy. If you already haven't check out some of the videos @ www.evinrude.com . I know that they are tooting thier own horn, but after about 120 hours of putting the screws to it I find it all true.

M I M

[ILLOGICAL GGC]

sitting at maw point at the mouth of bay river and having every 5th wave break over the bow while at anchor fishing for red drum isn't fun my friend. the 190 is fine for the tar/pamilco,and roanoke rivers but not for the sound....i went out many times with the larger boats just to show them the 190 could do it .but it was not fishable once the the anchor was set.

the 215 is the only boat i feel comfortable in when it gets nasty in the sound and it can get nasty quick

i only have 2 weekends open to fish drum in aug and sept ,but if you want to try and take a ride on one of those trips send me a pm and i will see what we can do
berto

[tylerderdan]

I posted some real numbers in different post last week as to mileage. But the numbers I see above are not real, they don't reflect full tanks of gas, gear on board, ice etc.

This past Sunday I ran my 215 cc with 140 df suzuki to San Clemente Island and back in the same day. We ran a total 130 miles from the time we left the harbor at 3:30 am to the time we arrived back and on the trailer. Conditons we good, calm w/ all day. I had including myself a total of three people on board. We had all of our gear and about 150lbs of ice. The fuel tank was fully topped off when we left also. I also carry a large amount of emergency survival gear. So we had the equivalent of 7 or 8 grown men on board. I do have a new Suzuki flow meter, but I wanted to fill up again after the trip to get a my exact mileage. I ended up getting 2.54 MPG We didn't do any trolling, and usually ran between 5000-5200 rpm. I ended up burning 51 gallons total that day.

[jeepcj779]

Thanks for the info. You are right about the data on boattest.com, as far as the numbers being different from how they would be in a mission ready boat. However, the numbers should be accurate for comparison purposes. I have to discount the test for the 190 because the environmentals are so different, but the 195 cc and the 215 cc had virtually identical test conditions, the same guy tested them, and he used the same equipment. The tests were done with 3/4 fuel and 2 people on board. The ony differences were the boats and the motors. The 215cc w/the 150 Yamaha had better MPG than the 195cc w/the 115 Yamaha under the exact same conditions. If you continued to load the boats as you said, full of gear and ice, the the performance curves should stay about the same, even though the numbers won't be as high.
Regardless, it looks as if the 215cc is the superior boat of the 3, and that having some extra horsepower can increase you fuel economy. I will be getting the 215.