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Old 05-08-2006, 05:48 PM
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yamaha fuel/water separator

I have a 170 bass with a 60hp 4 stroke Yamaha ( 2004). With all this talk about ethanol
I am going to install a fuel/water separator real quick. I got a price for a Yamaha kit with
housing and one 10 micron filter for $52 ( not installed ) at a local marina. The Yamaha filter is supposed to be extra long and is supposed to do a better job filtering ( per a seminar I attended at this dealer). Is this a good price or can someone give me a better source. I really dont know if the Yamaha product is any better.
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I have a 170 bass with a 60hp 4 stroke Yamaha ( 2004). With all this talk about ethanol
I am going to install a fuel/water separator real quick. I got a price for a Yamaha kit with
housing and one 10 micron filter for $52 ( not installed ) at a local marina. The Yamaha filter is supposed to be extra long and is supposed to do a better job filtering ( per a seminar I attended at this dealer). Is this a good price or can someone give me a better source. I really dont know if the Yamaha product is any better.
Thanks in advance
Dave K ( Sarasota , Florida)
Dave,
That is a good price as long as it does the job. If you dealer recommends it then it should do fine. I ordered mine from West Marine, it was about $25 more.
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Old 05-08-2006, 07:23 PM
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The I guess the 10 mic 90 gal an hr Yamaha fuel water seperator I can get at a local marina for $45 must be a good deal.. also the parts guy said with a larger motor like my 150 hpdi to get no less than 90 gal an hour fuel flow
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I took it one step further using the Yamaha kit and using a Racor filter with a clear bowl for the water to collect in. This should allow visually checking to see if this water in the fuel is actually a problem.

By the way, I used 2 1/4"x 1 1/2" long stainless lag bolts screwed into the back storage area on my 190 to hold this thing..it's a bit heavy. I tried to be very careful not to overtighten these, I hope they hold....

I will try to post a picture if there is interest....
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Trasbeck,
It would be great if you could post a pic... Im not sure how to do the install and could use a visual to get started.
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I used the Racor filter with clear bowl as well. I was a bit hesitant at first but it was really very simple. The hardest part was figuring out where to put it in my 170CC without losing storage space and still having access to it to change the filter and check the bowl for water. Finally decided to use the port side compartment under the rear seat. I added about five feet of fuel line to mine so I could locate it away from the battery compartment (thinking sparks and fuel vapor not being a good mix) and routed the fuel line around the storage compartment. I've already taken the pictures...will try to upload them tonight.
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Cagrove,

Did you have any problem with getting fuel past the new filter? I can't get fuel to pump from the bulb (squeezing it disconnected from motor). The separator is installed before the bulb. I suspect a bad check valve inside the bulb because it won't stay collapsed when I hold a finger over the end towards the tank ( bulb removed from both ends of fuel line.
Do we even need these primers on fuel injected engines?
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Did you have any problem with getting fuel past the new filter? I can't get fuel to pump from the bulb (squeezing it disconnected from motor). The separator is installed before the bulb. I suspect a bad check valve inside the bulb because it won't stay collapsed when I hold a finger over the end towards the tank ( bulb removed from both ends of fuel line.
Do we even need these primers on fuel injected engines?
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Before I screwed the filter on I filled the filter and bowl with gas from a gas can. I then connected everything and primed the bulb until it got firm (which was a lot quicker than I thought it would be). Then next day I took it out for a test run and everything worked great. You are more than likely correct to suspect the check valve...that's an easy fix. As for the need for the bulb, I know that when I forget to prime before starting the engine it takes a lot more cranking to get it going than when I prime the bulb first. I guess that's why it's there.
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Replaced the primer bulb today and all is well....
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Replaced the primer bulb today and all is well....
Glad to hear your good to go.
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